- From: Danny Ayers <danny666@virgilio.it>
- Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:59:43 +0100
- To: "Jeremy Carroll" <jjc@hpl.hp.com>, <www-rdf-interest@w3.org>, <GK@ninebynine.org>
>>It would be interesting to hear from the WG why the current RDF/XML hasn't >>already "gone". > >My own view is that the WG has been constrained by the charter, and within >that constraint has done an excellent job of cleaning up RDF/XML. Yep, fair enough, it's easy to forget the organizational constraints from an end user point of view. >At least some of the problems with the M&S articulation of the RDF/XML >syntax have been solved; for example the articulation in "RDF/XML Syntax >(Revised)" of a grammar over XML infoset is a good thing, which fixes a >number of bugs with M&S. As far as I recall, all the changes made by the WG >to the grammar have been improvements. (the last sentence makes me chuckle) Most definitely - the fixes are great, and as a whole the documentation suite makes RDF significantly more welcoming and easier to use than even just a year ago. >RDF/XML is also a deployed technology, so whatever else happens, we are >likely to need continued support of it for a good while - cleaning up the >specs helps this. Agreed. >But no amount of hard work on the part of the WG or the editor can make >RDF/XML fit easily and comfortably into the XML world; the problems run too >deep. Also agreed. Graham's graph vs. tree point in the following mail can't be avoided, but there is quite a bit of syntactical vinegar that could be avoided. >I agree that >"a separate parallel (WG?) thread [sh]ould be spawned to work out a new >syntax that had less surprises for XMLers" > >Hopefully the current WG is arriving at last call, which should allow such >new work to be considered. Graham's right about there already being other human-readable representations (graph & n3), but these are pretty orthogonal from current syntaxes in the industry (XML marketplace/whatever). The graph representation depends on task-specific tools and the full n3 representation (for all the benefits ascribed to it) if anything is likely to scare away XMLers more than RDF/XML - no cosy angled brackets, more like the aftermath of an ant battle. Ntriples is less confusing, but then a triple-only view loses the big (graph) picture. Anyhow, I would hope & expect that this area will at least be discussed, to see if it would be a productive use of energy. Cheers, Danny.
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