- From: Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org>
- Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 12:03:53 +0100
- To: "Seaborne, Andy" <Andy_Seaborne@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
- Cc: "'RDF Interest'" <www-rdf-interest@w3.org>
At 10:51 AM 6/6/02 +0100, Seaborne, Andy wrote: >If an RDF processor reads in the same file twice, are the bNodes the same or >different? I'd say "different". >For compatibility with current RDF syntax, implicit bNodes in the current >syntax yield different bnodes in the graph created. But there is a choice >as to whether an explicit bNode (one labeled in the syntax) is scoped to the >file read operation (and hence creates different bNodes) or whether they get >unique labels in the disjoint space. > >If RDF is to be exchanged between systems across a newtork using a >serialization then the latter is desirable. It means part of the system (an >RDF application) on one machine can talk about the bNodes on another machine >(the source of the graph). That sounds rather dodgy to me -- the model theory is quite clear that bnodes are not identified with anything outside the graph in which they appear -- if you start introducing identifiers that describe bNodes from "outside", you (a) need to have a way of scoping them to a particular graph instance, or (b) be very sure that they are unique. Because of the way that bNode semantics are defined (essentially, as existential variables), I don't think it really matters if you have different bnodes in different places as long as the associated statements about them are "isomorphic" -- there's some recent discussion in the DAML list about "minimal identifying description" (MID) between Richard Fikes and Peter Patel-Schneider that might have some bearing. I don't know where the web archive is, but look for messages starting about: [[ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 15:39:41 -0700 From: Richard Fikes <fikes@ksl.stanford.edu> To: Joint Committee <joint-committee@daml.org> Subject: New DQL Specification Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------C8A05097584B9E8F59A89C7A" ]] #g ------------------- Graham Klyne <GK@NineByNine.org>
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