- From: Michael Rys <mrys@microsoft.com>
- Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:30:37 -0700
- To: "Michael Kay" <mhk@mhk.me.uk>, "Henry Luo" <henryluo@vibrasoft.net>, <www-ql@w3.org>
IF you want the working group to finish, I strongly recommend that we stop asking for new functionality for XQuery 1.0/XPath 2.0 (you can always ask for it for the next version). Best regards Michael > -----Original Message----- > From: www-ql-request@w3.org [mailto:www-ql-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of > Michael Kay > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:03 AM > To: 'Henry Luo'; www-ql@w3.org > Subject: RE: Re: Variable references in path expressions > > > > Latest working draft of XQuery Section 3.2, does not allow > > atomic values to > > be returned in the path except the last step. > > That is expression like (1, 2, 3)/(1, 2, 3) is not allowed. > > I've asked this question, and the reason given by the WG is > > that someone found 10/5 giving 5 is useless. > > That's not actually what I said: we allow many useless expressions, such > as > $a/$b; the objection to this one was not that it was useless, rather that > it > was confusing, because the use of "/" to mean division is so firmly rooted > in people's minds. Also, it wasn't a reason given by the WG: it was my > interpretation of views I have heard in the WG (you can make a technical > decision by taking a vote; agreeing a party line on why you made the > decision is another matter entirely). > > However, we now allow @price/2 to return 2, so in my personal view, > allowing > 1/2 to also return 2 isn't such a big deal. > > I personally wanted to use a different operator than "/" for mapping > sequences of atomic values, but now that we allow a sequence of atomic > values on the right of "/", I personally think it would make sense also to > allow a sequence of atomic values on the left. If we're going to allow > */name() and */string-length() then we might as well also allow > */name()/string-length(). The semantics are perfectly well-defined - it > just > requires that (a) both operands must be homogenous sequences, and (b) > reordering and deduplication occurs only if the rh operand is a sequence > of > nodes. It will allow some programming idioms which will look strange at > first, such as (1 to 5)/$x[.] to select the first 5 items in $x, but > strange > programming idioms are nothing new in XPath. > > I would suggest you raise this as a last-call comment on the spec. There > will probably be a reaction from the working group of "no new > functionality", but in my view there's a strong argument based on the fact > that it is simply removing a restriction from the language that can't be > justified. And it's not a new comment - there have been calls for a > "simple > mapping operator" for years. > > Michael Kay > http://www.saxonica.com/ > >
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