Re: Update to "Unordered Lists" QA tip

This version is much better.
 http://www.greywyvern.com/code/unordered-lists
 2005-07-26 14:01:49

I get the point of it now.

My main concern with this version is the slug.
It's clearly an action, but "Use Lists for Smart
Semantic Structure" sounds pretty academic.

Maybe...
  Use list markup for list structures.

Or...
  Tell mobile devices and search engines about your lists.

The obvious answer to "This is plainly a list of links, so
why not use the HTML list format to present them?" to many
HTML authors is "because I don't want bullets nor numbers."
That point is treated in the article, but fairly subtly
and far away, after an intervening paragraph and a heading.
It would be nice to illustrate the CSS code and show
the rendering, but maybe there isn't space. Surely one
of the linked references goes into that detail; maybe just

  You can get the same visual effect with <ul> as you
  did with <br />; see _xyz article_ for details.

The example at the top is somewhat responsive to
my request...

> It might be nice to see an example of the right way, followed by
> that example done the wrong way. (always put the right answer
> first, in case an impatient reader stops reading.)

but it has the example of what *not* to
do first, and that bad example is not even
typographically distinguished from the example
of what *to* do.

I'm not sure I like the Smart/Semantic/Structure
headings. Too subtle/cute for my tastes.

Also, I still think it's pretty important to have
hard evidence to back the claim that PDAs and
crawlers grok <ul>. I'd love to see screenshots
of the impact on a PDA, or at least a link
in the references section to something about
a specific PDA web browser that groks <ul>
helpfully.


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