- From: Lofton Henderson <lofton@rockynet.com>
- Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 08:49:57 -0700
- To: david_marston@us.ibm.com
- Cc: www-qa-wg@w3.org
- Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20040217083638.03d59870@localhost>
At 10:08 PM 2/8/04 -0500, david_marston@us.ibm.com wrote: >My proposal has been accepted! > >The acceptance note said that other details will follow later, so I still >don't know which day it will be. Regarding content, Lloyd Rutledge (Panels >Chair) wrote: >We have some feedback we'd appreciate you applying to the panel while >preparing it for the conference. This can apply to the writeup that will >appear in the program, as well as the communication with the panelists >and general planning. Most of all, the we feel the panel should be more >controversial -- if everyone agrees on the topic from the start, it >makes a dull conversation. It may help to have an "anti-interop (ish)" >position that you might get someone to champion is the "market leader" >position -- "We will be better than an open/interoperable system because >(a) we can tightly integrate pieces, (b) because our 'internal' >interfaces are not public/interoperable, we are not tied to obsolete >internal interfaces and we can change them as needed, and/or (c) we can >introduce new functionality more quickly than a standards group." Of >course, interoperability is "a good thing", put people can disagree on >how much to have, not to mention *how*. > >I think we have plenty of controversy built in with the proposed topics, >but I can also think of ways to bring up the anti-interop subjects. >Getting an advocate for that position might be harder, There are at least two ways to get more controversy. As Lloyd suggested, find a proponent of the argument that the "sole-source" approach as the only practical way -- in other words anti-interop, anti-open-standards. Another is: "interop is a worthy goal, but it is largely unattainable". I.e., despite the lofty goals of W3C and other standards bodies, successful seamless interop on a large scale simply isn't happening. Etc. >because the whole underpinning of WWW (and by extension, this conference) >is openness and interop. Why would a proponent of proprietary technology >attend this conference? There are examples of the dominant, almost-sole-source proprietor of a technology joining Working Groups, for less-than-noble reasons. One of the most benign reasons is: gather intelligence. The reasons go downhill from there. >If we have a visible bad guy, does that make this discussion really >balanced, or just give us a pre-ordained loser of the argument? Your >thoughts? I'm not sure that a proponent of "open, seamless interop is a noble but unattainable goal" would necessarily be the loser (or maybe "unattained" would be better than "unattainable"). She/he would have plenty of historical examples to draw upon to defend the point. -Lofton.
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