FINAL minutes QA WG Teleconference 3 February 2003

QA Working Group Teleconference
Monday, 3-February -2003
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Scribe: Lynne Rosenthal

Attendees:
(PC) Patrick Curran (Sun Microsystems)
(KD) Karl Dubost (W3C, WG co-chair)
(KG) Kirill Gavrylyuk (Microsoft)
(DH) Dominique Hazaël-Massieux (W3C)
(LH) Lofton Henderson (CGMO - WG co-chair)
(SM) Sandra Martinez (NIST)
(LR) Lynne Rosenthal (NIST - IG co-chair)
(MS) Mark Skall (NIST)
(AT) Andrew Thackrah (Open Group)
(DM) David Marston (IBM)
(OT) Olivier Thereaux (IG co-chair)

Regrets:
(dd) Dimitris Dimitriadis (Ontologicon)
(PF) Peter Fawcett (RealNetworks)

Absent:

Summary of New Action Items:
AI-2003-0203-1: LR announce to IG and WG comment period for TestGL, Feb 7
AI-2003-0203-2: LH send pointers of talks to PC, Feb 3
AI-2003-0203-3: PC to lead team developing kit/presentation, Feb 28
AI-2003-0203-4: KD to send PC pointer to W3C slidetool, Feb 3

Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa-wg/2003Feb/0002.html
Previous Telecon Minutes:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa-wg/2003Feb/0008.html


1.) Roll call 11am (ET), membership

2) Logistics
Feb 17 a US Government Holiday, LH to ask by email who will not be attending.
Review of Tech Plenary attendance  11 people are listed.

3.) Last Call resolutions (quick)
- Intro [1], OpsGL [2], SpecGL [3]
Documents [1],[2],[3] are the proposed LC text. [3] still needs a Status 
section. Comments are to be sent to IG list, should also link the form from 
the Status section.   Include a mention that ExTech documents are not yet 
LC, but invite people to propose examples and techniques as well as to 
review current documents.  Mechanism to added ExTech comments is to put 
them in the Form.  Olivier to modify Form with skeletonized version with 
ExTech added.
Resolutions:  Do we agree that the WDs [1],[2], [3] be published at Last 
Call documents on Feb 10?  Unanimous, all 3 specifications to go to LC.

Should we have a moratorium on ExTech documents during LC period?  This 
will ensure that everyone is looking at the same ExTech documents.  These 
documents need lots of work, so if there isn’t something that is a higher 
priority then we should continue to work on these documents.  MS not think 
that it is a key issue that people look at the same document.  It was 
agreed not to have a moratorium and that the documents could change during 
the review period.

TestGL first published draft, Dec 20.  KG stated that there are at least 3 
issues on TestGL.  LH thinks we should put a notice to the IG and WG about 
the comment period to get more comments on the document.  Action Item: LR 
comment period closes on March 3.

4. Introductions since Patrick joined late due to technical problems with 
Zakim.

5.) Outreach kit and Boston
- Karl's contribution [4]
- other discussion/contributions... any?
- other refs (e.g., Quick tips [5])
- make specific assignments and schedules
- other talks (Cannes, Proj Review, AC mtg)
LH sent email [6], identifying things that we should talk about to move 
this forward so that we have a partial kit ready for Boston’s outreach 
effort.  Approximately 12 groups will be visited in Boston.
a) Who will put together a kit for use in Boston?  Need someone to take 
ownership and lead the team to put this together and ensure something is 
put together in 4 weeks.   KD doing this would help understand what we 
do.  We need some fresh ideas.  Volunteer? PC recaps our objective that is 
to put together some material to summarize what we are doing and help to 
convince others that doing QA would be good.  KD most of the information 
already exists; it is a matter of putting it together to convince 
people.  PC volunteers. Team is LH, OT, KD, DH, DM and input from everyone 
else.

b) Goals and audience for this information is the WG as a whole.  It also 
covers a broad range of experience  those just starting out as well as 
those WGs that have been around for awhile.  We need to include information 
for the novice as well as for those more experienced.   Our only slot on 
the Tech Plenary agenda is a joint discussion on Glossary.  DM do we want 
to encourage discussion among the members outside the WGs?  LR suggests 
talking to people during breaks to stimulate discussions.  Doing this 
informally, soliciting information and encouraging their ideas.
Adjourn

[0] http://www.w3.org/2003/01/TPMar2003/regByGroup#QAWG
[1] http://www.w3.org/QA/WG/2003/01/qaframe-intro-20030129
[2] http://www.w3.org/QA/WG/2003/01/qaframe-ops-20030129
[3] http://www.w3.org/QA/WG/2003/01/qaframe-spec-20030129
[4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa-wg/2003Jan/0063.html
[5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa-wg/2003Jan/0052.html
[6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa-wg/2003Feb/0001.html