- From: David Turner <dturner@microsoft.com>
- Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:07:01 -0800
- To: <www-patentpolicy-comment@w3.org>
Microsoft would like to offer its views on the latest proposal for a W3C patent policy as described in the last call document [1]. It has come to our attention that there has been a lot of speculation regarding our position concerning the recent decision within the Patent Policy working group (PPWG) to propose a Royalty Free (RF)-only policy. Because much of this speculation is not accurate and actually clouds the issues we are most concerned with, we would like to clarify our position for those who are interested. First we would like to commend the W3C for pursuing the incredibly difficult challenge of defining a patent policy to cover the development and licensing of Web-based standards. There is no surprise that there is a wide array of opinions on a large number of issues that need to be addressed as part of this exercise. The fact that the current proposal treats all participants (except invited experts and perhaps W3C staff) and licensees the same is especially noteworthy given that the interested parties employ different business models and use web technologies in very different manners. Microsoft has been a significant supporter and contributor of Recommendations and industry standards developed at the W3C. In doing so Microsoft has consistently brought substantial contributions to the W3C on a royalty free basis both to encourage consensus-based collaboration around interoperability standards and to help promote wide adoption of these standards within the industry (XML-Data (a key input paper for XML Schema), SOAP & WSDL to name a few). Many of these standards have been core to the web foundation on which many of Microsoft's products depend. As such we have viewed the W3C as one of the premier forums for developing such important standards. Microsoft's ability to charge royalties for implementations of key W3C standards has not been and is not a significant consideration for us in the debate over whether or not the W3C should have a RF-only policy. We are concerned that that adoption of the current RF-only policy will severely limit the effectiveness of the W3C in continuing to be a good forum to develop web-based standards that will achieve widespread adoption in terms of cost and time. We have found that standards are only successful if our customers' requirements are being met through their active participation in the standards setting activity. It so happens that many of our customers are enterprises outside of the core IT sector such as consumer electronics companies and telecommunications companies. Many of these enterprises have long established patent portfolio departments that derive revenue commensurate with some of their significant business units. We have heard from many of these customers who are also W3C members that they will not participate in standards development activities if it means that they will have to agree to license their patents on a RF-only basis. "Who needs them?" is the inferred response that some web developers and IT companies have given to the threat of these enterprises pulling out of the W3C and web standards development. We think these enterprises are an important part of the process for the following reasons. 1. As large consumers of web-based technologies they have a significant role in setting the requirements for web-based standards. 2. Those companies with large patent portfolios and active licensing programs may own patents that cover W3C standards whether or not they have participated in the development of the standard. If they have not participated, they will not have any obligation to license at all or to disclose early, let alone license RF. This could lead to very serious patent blocking problems instead of reducing them. 3. Other standards setting organizations base their standards on W3C Recommendations by making mandatory references to the inclusion of W3C Recommendations. If the licensing regime covering the W3C Recommendations is unacceptable to members of the other standards setting organizations then they will not be incorporated, diminishing the possibility of widespread adoption and their usefulness overall. "Why do these companies want to set up a toll booth on the web?" has been asked by others. While Microsoft can't answer that question for any other company, we can share some observations. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. There is no toll both on the web today, although there has been no policy in place preventing companies from doing so in the past. 2. There is a tendency to look at the royalty issue in black and white terms. For example, many people understand how a patent royalty of a few cents per DVD can be applied to DVD sales, but have more difficulty understanding how one could apply a similar patent royalty to html. Perhaps broadening how one views the use of royalties and in the case of this example, envisaging a reasonable one-time lump sum applied to browsers would be more palatable than a fee each time a user clicked on an html link. The point being that even if a rare situation arose in which a patent royalty was going to be charged, it does not mean that a toll booth is going to be built on the Web. 3. Because most standards setting organizations' policies (as well as competition law, fraud and similar legal principles in the US and Europe) place some burden on participants who own patents to disclose those patents in a timely manner, these patents are generally disclosed early on and prospective implementers can determine whether acceptable license terms will be offered for the use of those patents. If the RF policy is likely to have these negative results, how is it that the PPWG's Last Call proposal includes only a RF option for W3C Recommendations? First it is worth noting that the submitted proposal is based on a very slim majority vote. Secondly, the W3C is focused much more on the web development community being able to create web technology than it is on the users of the web. While most web developers and users alike would prefer RF standards it is not clear that everyone arrives at this preference for the same reasons. The software development community has a number of groups with special interests and it is apparent that some of these special interest groups have viewed the W3C patent policy as means for achieving objectives that do not relate to the efficient and useful development of standards at the W3C. For example, on the day that the PPWG released its public summary of the meeting announcing a RF-only policy, Software in the Public Interest's spokesperson Bruce Perens issued a commentary on ZDNET [2] stating: The W3C's decision will resolve only a single battle in a much Broader war. A similar royalty-free policy must now be enacted by the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) and many other organizations. Some standards bodies may decide to buck the trend and act as playgrounds for large patent holders. Those organizations will argue that by allowing patent royalties, they will always be able to choose the best algorithm for any job. It will then fall to the market to decide which organizations it will follow. This battle must also be taken to the various governments and treaty organizations that produce bad law permitting the patenting of software and business systems, and continue to do so. Mr. Perens could not be any clearer in stating his community's position on the value of the W3C patent policy - it is the first battle in a larger war against software patents and commercial software, but has little to do with the W3C's role in remaining a good place to develop web standards. At the same time the Free Software Foundation (FSF), urged software developers to flood the W3C public comment list with mail stating their objections to the already RF-only policy. It turns out that because the General Public License (GPL) is such a restrictive source code license, companies using the GPL for their products would not be able to incorporate W3C implementations that are distributed royalty free but with legitimate field of use restrictions properly permitted under the W3C RF patent policy. Consequently, the FSF's spokesperson Eben Moglen has urged his followers to request that the W3C license commitment be changed to an unlimited RF patent license meaning that any patent that covered a W3C Recommendation would have to be made available to anyone royalty free for any purpose whatsoever, even purposes that have nothing to do with the W3C Recommendation and even for uses that might be contrary to technology endorsed by the W3C. Mr. Moglen's statement posted on the FSF website [3] says: The Foundation urges all those who care about the right of Free Software developers to implement all future web standards to send comments to the W3C urging that the policy be amended to prohibit the imposition of "field of use" restrictions on patent claims contributed to W3C standards. On the one hand we have Bruce Perens hailing the W3C's RF-only decision because it represents a victory on the way to eliminating the enforceability of software patents even though a significant percent of his constituency is apparently unable to distribute software based on W3C Recommendations, while his colleague Eben Moglen urges his constituents to amend the W3C patent policy in a way that would surely lead to a mass exodus of the W3C's current membership. Interestingly, the PPWG did not have a RF-only policy until the voices of these Open Source and Free Software experts were heard, but their primary interest in a RF-only policy does not lie with the W3C remaining a good forum for developing web standards. While the open source software community, like the commercial software community, has and continues to contribute to the development of the Web, in part, by creating and supporting Web standards, these communities do have different relationships with the W3C. As you consider whether or not a RF-only policy is the right patent policy for the W3C we hope you will not only think about the pros and cons of such a policy but why some parties are issuing a call to arms to individuals who may have little engagement with the W3C other than to comment on this patent policy. So what would be a viable alternative to a RF-only IPR Policy? One of the proposals which was rejected by a narrow vote of the PPWG but which is included in the Last Call document [4] permitted a Patent Advisory Group (PAG) to conclude The final Recommendation cannot be implemented under the W3C Core licensing model. If PAG determines that specific features not available under the W3C Core license are desirable and unavoidable, then the PAG may propose: other action is taken to resolve the licensing problem that will enable the Recommendation to meet its original goals and the goals of the Consortium. This proposal gave the PAG an opportunity to propose a workable solution outside the RF-only policy. In exceptional cases other terms and conditions might not thwart the adoption of a standard and could be acceptable to the W3C. While it is very unlikely that different terms and conditions would be found acceptable in any but the most exceptional cases given the strong preference for RF web standards, it may be sufficient to keep many of the W3C members who are consumers of web technologies and who have active patent licensing programs enough insurance to keep them engaged in the work of the W3C. We urge the W3C and the Advisory Committee to evaluate the precedent setting RF-only nature of the proposed patent policy in the context of whether or not it will enable the W3C to remain a good forum for developing web standards. If RF only, without reasonable exceptions is adopted and leads to key consumers of web-based standards, such as consumer electronics and telecommunications members, going elsewhere, will the core web standards continue to be developed at the W3C? Will those web standards avoid the patents of those enterprises no longer participating in the W3C process? Will those standards be used as the foundation for other standards? Given these concerns and questions the W3C should be cautious about adopting this RF-only policy backed by some vocal parties whose primary interests are unrelated to the W3C's ability to continue to develop widely adopted web standards. David Turner Microsoft Corporation W3C Patent Policy Working Group member W3C Advisory Committee representative [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-patent-policy-20021114/ [2] http://news.com.com/2010-1071-961018.html?tag=lh [3] http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/w3c-patent.html [4] http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-patent-policy-20021114/#Addendum
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