- From: Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 15:43:02 +0200
- To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
- CC: www-patentpolicy-comment@w3.org
Daniel Phillips wrote: > > On October 4, 2001 02:00 pm, Chris Lilley wrote: > > > The public review period, if there ever was one, went by quietly: > > > > Please get your facts in order. The public review period of the SVG 1.0 > > specification (from first public working draft on 11 February 1999 to > > end of the Proposed Recommendation period on 16 August, 2001) was *over > > 29 months* > > Let me get this straight. You claim the public review period for SVG did not > go by quietly? I was responding to your casual slur "if there ever was one". I wasn't prepared to let that particular mud be thrown without picking you up on it. > From the list archive: > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/ > > we see: > > Total comments for August 2001: 60 If you take the trouble to read the various stages of the SVG specifications (eight working drafts, two last calls, two releases of a candidate recommendation, one proposed recommendation) you can see there was abundant call for public comment and there was, in fact, also abundant comment which was taken into account in the technical development of the specification. > Consider that the real introduction of the RAND policy was as part of > the SVG specification, There is no "RAND policy". I suspect you are referring to the Patent policy Framework. Either way, that is a different spec to the SVG spec. Please be clear which specification you are actually talking about. > and suppose the public really had been aware that W3C > intended to bless SVG as a patent-encumbered standard. it isn't patent encumbered. But all the disclosures and license terms were there in the public patent page, linked from the Proposed Recommendation. > Would we not have > expected to see the September 30's 726 comments submitted instead some time > before August 16? Again, are you commenting on PPF or SVG? There are hundereds of comments on PPF, yes. Many of them contain real content, which is valuable, and some of them are merely bluster and noise. I'm hoping you can constrain yourelf into the former category. > We saw no such thing. Instead, we saw the close of the comment period go by > quietly, just as I said. Where are the comments for the Proposed Rec for SVG sent? On what basis do you say that it went by quietly? You have not seen all the comments, you are blustering, and it shows. > I submit that, far from my facts being out of > order, you have attempted to spin the facts in a way that suits you. Well I would say you were spinning the facts in a way that makes a simpler story for your audience, by your consistent refusal to discuss or acknowledge the RF parts of the PPF and by consistently using an nvented name for it "RAND policy" and by attempting to drag in other W3C specs as if they were patent policy and not technical specifications. -- Chris
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