- From: Frederick Hirsch <hirsch@zolera.com>
- Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 12:40:06 -0400
- To: <www-patentpolicy-comment@w3.org>
- Cc: <w3c-patentpolicy-review@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <HNEILHLKDJAILJJBNELPCEEGCEAA.hirsch@zolera.com>
First, Zolera Systems appreciates the extension to the review period and the publication of the clarifying response to public comments released by the W3C. We also appreciate the effort of the patent policy group to address conflicting patent concerns in a clear and open manner. The patent policy frameworks requirement approach of defining a licensing mode at the start of an activity and using a patent action group (PAG) to resolve issues is good. Rechartering with Advisory Committee (AC) and Director approval makes sense for unresolved issues or licensing mode changes. We propose that changing from reasonable and non-discriminatory (RAND) to royalty-free (RF) would not require a recharter in the event of no known patents. This is unlikely, however. We believe all workgroups should default to RF and that there has to be a very good reason to charter a RAND group, such as a known patent in conjunction with a compelling activity. We agree with the public comment that RF is preferred and essential for core standards. Making the distinction between layers will not help as higher layers become core (for example application protocols such as SOAP are "higher" than IP, but apparently will be essential to web services). We would like to see RF be the norm, by requiring all work groups to default to RF. To make this more effective than a desire, we recommend that in order to start a RAND work group, it require a 3/4 favorable AC vote and Director approval. (The point is to make it hard to create a RAND group, but not impossible) We do not want the W3C to encourage patent land grabs - the incentive should be to make necessary IP RF to create a standard. We are concerned that the administrative cost and overhead of managing RAND licenses will be burdensome for small companies, especially since the terms are not made known as part of the W3C process. How are terms made non-discriminatory if not made widely known? We suggest that RAND-mode recommendations include the detailed RAND terms and payment instructions as part of the last call recommendation, to minimize the costs of compliance. We note that the RF terms include the ability to require a grant of a reciprocal RAND license to all essential claims (#4). Shouldn't the RF license modify this to be a reciprocal RF license? We think so (Sections 4e, f) We support the second formal objection, since late opt-out can derail a recommendation's value. We would like to modify the objection to not include "unlimited defensive use of Essential Claims", since this is very broad. We do NOT support the first formal objection. Reviewing a last call document to see if one has patents which impact it does not seem onerous, as long as members are not expected to track the details of all working groups. It is beneficial to the community to surface and address patent issues of non-working group members. We note that the patent policy document will not solve all problems. The success of the W3C still requires good faith on the part of members for disclosure and good faith on PAG members not to derail the process. --- Frederick Hirsch Zolera Systems, http://www.zolera.com/ Information Integrity, XML Security
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