- From: Yaron M. Minsky <yminsky@cs.cornell.edu>
- Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 11:01:44 -0400 (EDT)
- To: <www-patentpolicy-comment@w3.org>
I'm writing to express my opinion about the W3C's emerging policy on patents. W3C representatives have said that the W3C can't continue to operate as if patents don't exist. They point to the IETF and their policy on patents, and argue that RAND-style patent licenses are common among standards organizations, and the W3C should join in in this practice. To the first point, I heartily agree: the W3C should be very mindful of patents. But they should be mindful of them mostly for the purposes of avoiding them or knocking them down. A fine example of the W3C's patent policy gone awry is the SVG proposal. SVG uses utterly standard masking/compositing techniques, which are the subject of an absurd patent held by Apple. There are a number of good solutions to this problem: 1. Knock down the patent, as was done in the P3P case. It takes time, but the world is then a better, more open place, now free of one more ridiculous patent. 2. Convince Apple to hand out an RF license to the patent 3. Exclude the algorithm from the SVG standard. The one solution that is not acceptable is to start producing patent-encumbered standards for the web. The only thing worse than a standard encumbered by patents is a standard encumbered by submarine patents. Yes, the RAND policy requires participants to state all patents they know about. But other patents may surface later and be enforced nonetheless. Even if the W3C allows for patents to be included in standards, participants should be required to agree to RF licenses of any patents that are undisclosed at the time of the standard being set. Otherwise, the incentives are all wrong: participants have no incentive to find out about patents they may own that may impinge on the standard. More critically, even if participants knowingly insert encumbered technology, it may be quite hard to prove that this was done, making the disclosure rules that exist unenforceable. Finally, RAND licensing terms make free software for implementing RAND-based standards impossible. This is simply unacceptable. The web was built in large part on free software, and to exclude free software now is both ungrateful and self-destructive. At a bare minimum, RAND licensing should be changed in such a way as to allow RF licenses for free software and non-commercial implementations. A final note: the IETF has not produced many patent-encumbered standards, and is moving towards more RF licensing. The W3C, to its detriment, is moving in the opposite direction. If such changes are made, then I believe the "moral authority" of the W3C will be compromised, and the web may become more fractured than ever. Sincerely, Yaron Minsky -- |--------/ Yaron M. Minsky \--------| |--------\ http://www.cs.cornell.edu/home/yminsky/ /--------| Open PGP --- KeyID 0x91F2C47C Fingerprint: 6838 FF4E 256C BD24 453E 6EEA 0FBE 6CF8 91F2 C47C
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