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Minutes of the June 13, 2016 MMI Working Group call

From: Deborah Dahl <dahl@conversational-technologies.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 10:16:37 -0400
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Today we continued the discussion that we started last week with Dr. Dirk
Schnelle-Walka, Harman International, Connected Car Division, on his earlier
comments [1] on the use case wiki[2].
This week we focused on the horizontal issues of security, privacy,
accessibility and safety, and we also discussed UC-12 "Smart Car Platform"
[3].
 
[1] comments:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-multimodal/2015Jul/0010.html
 
[2] use cases: https://www.w3.org/wiki/MMI/Use_Cases_Categorized 

http://www.w3.org/2016/06/13-multimodal-minutes.html

 

[3] Smart Car Platform:
https://www.w3.org/wiki/MMI/Use_Cases_Categorized#UC-12:_Smart_Car_Platform

 

Minutes:

http://www.w3.org/2016/06/13-multimodal-minutes.html

 

and below as text

 

   [1]W3C

 

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

 

                               - DRAFT -

 

          Multimodal Interaction Working Group Teleconference

                              13 Jun 2016

 

   See also: [2]IRC log

 

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2016/06/13-multimodal-irc

 

Attendees

 

   Present

          Debbie, Kaz, Dirk

 

   Regrets

          Helena

 

   Chair

          Debbie

 

   Scribe

          ddahl

 

Contents

 

     * [3]Topics

         1. [4]actions

         2. [5]use case wiki

     * [6]Summary of Action Items

     * [7]Summary of Resolutions

     __________________________________________________________

 

   <scribe> scribe: ddahl

 

actions

 

   action-441?

 

   <trackbot> action-441 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Submit bullet

   points on mmi to the wot landscape document on github -- due

   2016-06-13 -- OPEN

 

   <trackbot>

   [8]https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/441

 

      [8] https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/441

 

   kaz: will do that today

 

use case wiki

 

   <kaz> [9]Use Case wiki

 

      [9] https://www.w3.org/wiki/MMI/Use_Cases_Categorized

 

   debbie: last week we talked about UC-7

 

   [10]https://www.w3.org/wiki/MMI/Use_Cases_Categorized#UC-7:_Mul

   timodal_Appliances

 

     [10]
https://www.w3.org/wiki/MMI/Use_Cases_Categorized#UC-7:_Multimodal_Appliance
s

 

   kaz: last week we talked about security and privacy in WoT, we

   should talk about that for mmi interaction with appliances

 

   dirk: for home appliances?

 

   kaz: during the panel session we talked about user

   authentication, device authentication, physical danger and

   safety

 

   <kaz> [11]WoT Security panel session during the W3C/Keio 20th

   event

 

     [11] https://www.w3.org/2016/Talks/0609-wot-panel-ka/

 

   dirk: we also talked about privacy issues in the SCXML paper,

   authentication was fine, but can become complex if you want to

   hide part of a screen from someone who's watching, for example

 

   kaz: Javascript with HTML5 isn't sufficient, need something

  like SCXML

 

   <kaz> [12]p11

 

     [12] https://www.w3.org/2016/Talks/0609-wot-panel-ka/#%2811%29

 

   (kaz discusses slides)

 

   <kaz> fyi, this is the link to the Keio 20th anniversary event:

   [13]https://www.w3.org/20/Asia/Japan/Overview.html

 

     [13] https://www.w3.org/20/Asia/Japan/Overview.html

 

   debbie: safety would be especially important for people with

   disabilities

   ... it might be extremely important for them to access their

   home devices

 

   kaz: accessibility will go beyond making the web usable

   ... we need to think about that kind of relationship if

   everything is connected

 

   Dirk: what does this mean from an architectural point of view?

   ... in our system we targeted older people, some with

   disabilities, we addressed this with fusion and fission

   ... using modalities as appropriate

 

   kaz: making the system easier to access for people with

   disabilities should not make it easy for evil people to access

 

   debbie: should we add anything to UC-7

   ... we could add something to the template

 

   kaz: add a section 3 covering security, accessibility and

   safety and also add something for each use cases

   ... and add something to the template

 

   Dirk: in our project the security people suggested XACML,

   standardized by Oasis

   ... it allows for fine-grained permissions

   ... Extensible Access Control Markup Language

 

   [14]https://www.w3.org/wiki/MMI/Use_Cases_Categorized#UC-12:_Sm

   art_Car_Platform

 

     [14]
https://www.w3.org/wiki/MMI/Use_Cases_Categorized#UC-12:_Smart_Car_Platform

 

   debbie: this was Dirk's other comment

 

   kaz: during the Automotive Workshop 4 years ago, Audi was using

   SCXML, but not MMI Architecture

 

   Dirk: in last year's SCXML workshop there were participants

   from auto industry, but there isn't a good editor

   ... for visualizing

   ... so they were reluctant to use

   ... there was a good editor from NVIDIA presented at the

   workshop two years ago

 

   kaz: a UML editor should be able to generate SCXML code

 

   <Dirk> NVidia SCXML Editor:

   [15]http://scxmlworkshop.de/eics2014/submissions/Developing%20U

   ser%20Interfaces%20using%20SCXML%20Statecharts.pdf

 

     [15]
http://scxmlworkshop.de/eics2014/submissions/Developing%20User%20Interfaces%
20using%20SCXML%20Statecharts.pdf

 

   <kaz> [16]visual paradigm

 

     [16] https://www.visual-paradigm.com/tutorials/state-code-gen.jsp

 

   Dirk: this is a UML editor

 

   kaz: that you can save as SCXML code

 

   Dirk: an integration into a UML tool would help a lot

 

   <kaz> [17]UML tools for Linux

 

     [17] http://www.zipcon.net/~swhite/docs/computers/linux/UML_Tools.html

 

   Dirk: automotive use cases are navigation, entertainment,

   telephony

   ... there is an open source approach for automotive

 

   kaz: GENIVI, Generic In Vehicle Infotainment

   ... for GUI part they use Qt

   ... probably some are using Linux-based system

   ... a few years ago, the alternatives were embedded C++ or

   HTML5, but now some people are thinking of MMI Architecture

 

   Dirk: this would be a good alternative to just attaching

   modalities

   ... without a good integration of modalities

   ... we could explore how MMI can assist in the integration of

   modalities

 

   kaz: we can add or detach a modality at any point

 

   debbie: we can add the automotive discussion from today to

   UC-12

 

Summary of Action Items

 

Summary of Resolutions

 

   [End of minutes]

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