Re: arXiv updates and MathML Intent

Seeing the screenshot, have we actually resolved what to do when "alttext"
and "intent" are both set on a MathML element?

We may want to say "intent" takes precedence if we haven't done so already.

Deyan

On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 2:55 AM Schubotz, Moritz <
Moritz.Schubotz@fiz-karlsruhe.de> wrote:

> Let’s celebrate this historic moment with a screenshot.
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> *From: *Deyan Ginev <deyan.ginev@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 17. September 2025 at 23:40
> *To: *"www-math@w3.org" <www-math@w3.org>
> *Subject: *arXiv updates and MathML Intent
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> Hi everyone,
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> As of this morning, arXiv's experimental HTML pages are now using an
> intent attribute for the first  time. Namely, each math element is
> annotated with the ":literal" property.
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> ":literal" values are the only reliable starting point for graduate level
> texts in STEM, where simple heuristics fail as often as they succeed (if
> that). They fit Louis' pragmatic stance of "just show me what the author
> has written", while also allowing more informed intent attributes to be
> deposited on the subtrees, when known.
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> Additional intent upgrades are interesting future work for arXiv - and
> LaTeXML. We would like to gradually enrich subtrees, whenever we have
> sufficient confidence we can infer the mathematical concepts.
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> These new attributes for arXiv are only starting to trickle in with the
> article batches announced daily. It will take a full regeneration of the
> collection to have them everywhere. That could happen near the end of 2025,
> maybe just in time for the MathML 4 CR phase. We'll see.
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> Here is one random recently announced article, to illustrate today's
> changes:
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> https://arxiv.org/html/2509.12354v1
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> P.S. My regrets for tomorrow's WG meeting, I will be traveling.
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> Greetings,
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> Deyan
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