- From: Neil Soiffer <soiffer@alum.mit.edu>
- Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 11:04:40 -0800
- To: Deyan Ginev <deyan.ginev@gmail.com>
- Cc: "Miller, Bruce R. (Fed)" <bruce.miller@nist.gov>, www-math@w3.org
- Message-ID: <CAESRWkAc4Y5XJTFo_0-T0jk=-AN08ak9kMv9xp4O-8Eq+xMoPA@mail.gmail.com>

I agree the list should be updated. And if the list is targeted to MathML Core, then Deyan's suggestion of only including projects with active development makes sense for MathML generators. However, there is the big question of who has the time to do it. Two suggested changes: 1. Although some small number of people (~2%) still use IE, it seems like a dead end so I'd be in favor of removing MathPlayer since it only works with IE. 2. I would add mathlive to the list. It likely belongs in several categories given that it also has a computation engine associated with it. I think it makes sense to add an "assistive technology" section listing AT that uses MathML. Of course, getting a good list requires time, and that's hard to get. Neil On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 10:04 AM Deyan Ginev <deyan.ginev@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Bruce, all, > > Is there anything problematic with removing seemingly outdated entries > from that page? It leads with: > "This page by the MathWG keeps a non-exhaustive list", and maybe it can > also clarify that it bookkeeps "tools with active maintenance". > > I think we can delegate to wikipedia for the "exhaustive" encyclopedic > bookkeeping, as long as we had a MathML historian (or two, or three) who > wanted to collect all of that metadata. > > For some examples, the wiki page on "formula editor" has a table of > available systems, 36 (thirty six) of which claim to have MathML support: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula_editor > > Just that table spans 2+ vertical screens on my large monitor. > > Similarly, there was a list I sent around with 16 mathml-to-latex formula > conversion tools, and I have another list with 10 actively maintained > latex-to-HTML5+MathML document converters. I think the tally is even longer > for the single formula latex-to-mathml tools, which should easily be over > 20 across programming languages. Oh, and KaTeX is missing from the > polyfills, which is unfortunate. > > All of that said as to illustrate that with so many possible entries it > may be useful to strip away old projects with no ongoing maintenance. To > pick an example at random, the SnuggleTeX release notes indicate the last > release was in 2010: > https://www2.ph.ed.ac.uk/snuggletex/documentation/release-notes.html > > So at the least I think an email to the authors is in order, asking if > they anticipate future work updating their project to MathML Core. A lot of > ground can be covered with ~50 emails, if someone had a snowed-in Saturday > afternoon. > > Greetings, > Deyan > >

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