[minutes] Internationalization telecon 2019-05-30

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            Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

30 May 2019

    [2]Agenda

       [2] 
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2019May/0036.html

Attendees

    Present
           addison, JcK, atsushi, Jeff, Katy, David

    Regrets

    Chair
           Addison Phillips

    Scribe
           addison

Contents

      * [3]Topics
          1. [4]Agenda and Minutes
          2. [5]Action Items
          3. [6]Info Share
          4. [7]RADAR and Active Work Review
          5. [8]i18n html issues
          6. [9]String-Meta and the –d proposal
          7. [10]AOB?
      * [11]Summary of Action Items
      * [12]Summary of Resolutions
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    trackbot, prepare teleconference

    <scribe> Scribe: addison

    <agendabot> clear agenda

Agenda and Minutes

Action Items

    [13]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

      [13] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

    action-799?

    <trackbot> action-799 -- Katy Mawhood to Check whatwg for issue
    518 (multiple meta description allowed) -- due 2019-05-09 --
    OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [14]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/799

      [14] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/799

    close action-799

    <trackbot> Closed action-799.

    action-800?

    <trackbot> action-800 -- Addison Phillips to Write a personal
    response to eric p's email to public list about wasm language
    for unicode string -- due 2019-05-09 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [15]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/800

      [15] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/800

    close action-800

    <trackbot> Closed action-800.

    <r12a> superceded by
    [16]https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3754

      [16] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3754

    action-804?

    <trackbot> action-804 -- Richard Ishida to Examine our issue 96
    and css 3754 and ensure we can close or reopen if necessary --
    due 2019-05-23 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [17]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/804

      [17] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/804

    action-805?

    <trackbot> action-805 -- Katy Mawhood to Send list of w3c html
    issues for review next week -- due 2019-05-23 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [18]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/805

      [18] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/805

    close action-805

    <trackbot> Closed action-805.

    reopen action-799

    <trackbot> Re-opened action-799.

Info Share

    [19]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

      [19] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

RADAR and Active Work Review

    [20]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

      [20] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

    [21]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2019
    AprJun/0081.html

      [21] 
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2019AprJun/0081.html

    <r12a>
    [22]https://www.w3.org/International/techniques/shortchecklist.
    html

      [22] https://www.w3.org/International/techniques/shortchecklist.html

    <scribe> ACTION: addison: work with richard on a template for
    fpwd request boilerplate

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-806 - Work with richard on a template
    for fpwd request boilerplate [on Addison Phillips - due
    2019-06-06].

    jeff: did review of inaccessbility in captcha and didn't find
    anything

    [23]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/705

      [23] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/705

    <r12a>
    [24]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/shortchecklist

      [24] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/shortchecklist

    accepted 705

    with edits

i18n html issues

    [25]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2019M
    ay/0039.html

      [25] 
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2019May/0039.html

    [26]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/481

      [26] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/481

    <Katy> [27]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/481

      [27] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/481

    [28]https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/1023

      [28] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/1023

    <scribe> ACTION: richard: research html issue 1023 (our 481)
    and see if whatwg has text that needs an edit

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-807 - Research html issue 1023 (our
    481) and see if whatwg has text that needs an edit [on Richard
    Ishida - due 2019-06-06].

    <Katy> [29]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/418

      [29] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/418

    <Katy> [30]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/417

      [30] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/417

String-Meta and the –d proposal

    <scribe> ACTION: atsushi: research the 6 close suggested issues
    vs. the whatwg specification

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-808 - Research the 6 close suggested
    issues vs. the whatwg specification [on Atsushi Shimono - due
    2019-06-06].

    <r12a> [31]https://github.com/w3c/rdf-dir-literal/issues/3

      [31] https://github.com/w3c/rdf-dir-literal/issues/3

    <r12a> [32]https://github.com/w3c/rdf-dir-literal/issues/7

      [32] https://github.com/w3c/rdf-dir-literal/issues/7

    (addison summarizes)

    richard: pretty general agreement for people outside the data
    community that adding a new extension such as -d is a Bad Idea
    ... for example, people would use it for other formats
    ... not just rdf
    ... and lots of problems if in email or html
    ... the data people in rdf and json tend to see the world in a
    very narrow way
    ... they see what they need in their spec, but not necessarily
    what producers or consumers need?
    ... started doing before call to list where the strings might
    come from
    ... e.g. existing json lists of string where no metadata
    ... or from data formats, searches, web annotations which might
    have data bout direction
    ... or from users, as in wpub
    ... people might create a manifest by writing it
    ... and so could put an RLM in a string
    ... you could input text on a form and have lang and dir
    ... might get direction but not accurate language
    ... e.g. type hebrew into an English page
    ... making a list might be helpful

    (four scenarios, see comment 7)

    richard: how would you deal with
    ... they are very keen on perhaps just using the BCP47 language
    tag to find the direction
    ... the big question is what if you don't have lang or have
    wrong lang
    ... if that's the way you're doing that, here's how
    ... might need notes about what consumer would do, what
    producer would do
    ... a little worried

    [33]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2019M
    ay/0040.html

      [33] 
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2019May/0040.html

AOB?

Summary of Action Items

    [NEW] ACTION: addison: work with richard on a template for fpwd
    request boilerplate
    [NEW] ACTION: atsushi: research the 6 close suggested issues
    vs. the whatwg specification
    [NEW] ACTION: richard: research html issue 1023 (our 481) and
    see if whatwg has text that needs an edit

Summary of Resolutions

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