[minutes] Internationalization telecon 2015-07-16


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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

16 Jul 2015



    See also: [3]IRC log

       [3] http://www.w3.org/2015/07/16-i18n-irc


           Addison, Steve, Richard, Felix, Najib-ma

           Leandro, Dennis, JcK

           Addison Phillips

           Addison Phillips


      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]Agenda
          2. [6]Action Items
          3. [7]Info Share
          4. [8]RADAR and Active Work Review
          5. [9]Publication of HTML & CSS Bidi Requirements as WG
          6. [10]Publication of Chinese Layout Requirements
          7. [11]Notifications.lang and Notifications.dir
          8. [12]CharMod
          9. [13]AOB?
      * [14]Summary of Action Items


Action Items

    <r12a> [15]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

      [15] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open


    <trackbot> action-444 -- Addison Phillips to Write to w3
    parties requesting that the publication tool be updated to
    support note track documents after richard identifiers who to
    ping -- due 2015-06-04 -- OPEN


      [16] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/444

    richard: just send to echidna list


    <trackbot> action-452 -- Addison Phillips to Respond to
    notifications about .lang and .dir email -- due 2015-07-16 --


      [17] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/452

    close action-452

    <trackbot> Closed action-452.

    addison: did that, topic later

Info Share

    richard: if you want to go to TPAC, don't forget to register

    <r12a> [18]https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2015/

      [18] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2015/

    richard: anyone planning to go?

    <David> About 70% probability Ill come

    richard: combining the chinese and english in clreq
    ... was so good I am doing it for korean too
    ... will contact the contributors

RADAR and Active Work Review


      [19] https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar


      [20] https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Project_radar

    richard: new version of initial letter section for indic layout
    ... will publish to TR on tuesday
    ... doing under new policy where I don't need permission
    ... cleaned up markup
    ... put in new template stuff related to process changes
    ... comment on dated version
    ... use github comments
    ... etc
    ... need more participate in indic layout task force!!
    ... make a central section pointing to layout task forces
    ... info share
    ... moving ahead with arabic layout requirements
    ... charter nearly done
    ... detailed discussion of mongolian
    ... dpub surfaced recently
    ... have a list of things that need working on at CSS
    ... ethiopic still likely to proceed soon too
    ... vertical text
    ... FF41 aims to make vertical text
    ... accessible to the general public
    ... was just in nightly currently
    ... continusing dicussion on css list about text-orientation
    ... one motivation is that people want latin text on side of
    table or such
    ... and run up the page
    ... clarify how that works
    ... as opposed to/in addition to chinese or mongolian or
    ... have two new writing mode values
    ... sideways-right-left and sideways-left-right
    ... and text-orientation have "sideways" value
    ... but not the directions right or left
    ... sideways-rl / sideways-lr would rotate text line by 270 or
    90 degres
    ... vertical-lr /vertical-rl would roate baseline *and* rotate
    (some) characters to upright

Publication of HTML & CSS Bidi Requirements as WG Note


      [21] http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/NOTE-html-bidi-20150721/



    richard: whew! took a lot of effort
    ... visited all the links to check them
    ... pretty much ready
    ... mati sent some comments
    ... and implemented some
    ... and sent him a response
    ... intent here is to archive as historical

    addison: not intended as a living document

    richard: just double-checking... no objection to publish?

    <fsasaki> no objections

    addison: any objections to publishing?
    ... I don't have any

    najib: started to read again
    ... want to send some comments
    ... some typos

    <Najib-ma> recurrent typo, ยง1.3, LRO is 202D not 202E (RLO)

    richard: was corrected

    najib: comments by monday or tuesday?

    richard: want publish on tuesday
    ... monday is the lastest

    <Najib-ma> Ok

    richard: and sooner is better :-)

    <Najib-ma> Yep :-)

    richard: section 4: don't want to change anything in it
    ... snapshot as of july of 2014
    ... so that section very very difficult to fix
    ... so stop there

    <r12a> section 4 is a snapshot as of July 2014 of a separate
    document, and should therefore not be changed

Publication of Chinese Layout Requirements

    <r12a> [23]http://w3c.github.io/clreq/

      [23] http://w3c.github.io/clreq/

    richard: above link to clreq
    ... link now contains both chinese and english text
    ... *so* much easier to maintain
    ... and translate
    ... remarkably worth the effort
    ... notice the buttons in upper right for zh and en
    ... filters out the other language
    ... text is in a mix of simplified and traditional
    ... contributors contribute in their preferred form
    ... added some text explaining
    ... appreciate contributions from all
    ... at some point we may see some additional translation to
    simplified with button for zh-Hans
    ... question about how this would "finally" be published

    addison: leave it like this, even have buttons

    richard: yes, and useful to people too
    ... ready for publication as FPWD
    ... group would like to go ahead

    addison: (as chair) please indicate your support (+1) or
    opposition (-1) to publishing a first public working draft of
    requirements for layout of chinese

    <r12a> +1


    <fsasaki> +1

    <David> +1

    <Steve_Atkin> +1

    <Najib-ma> +1

    addison: so resolved

    richard: plan is to publish next week (thursday?)
    ... will put into typograpy index

Notifications.lang and Notifications.dir



    <r12a> [25]https://github.com/whatwg/notifications/issues/46

      [25] https://github.com/whatwg/notifications/issues/46


      [26] https://github.com/whatwg/notifications/issues/46


      [27] https://github.com/whatwg/notifications/issues/47

    addison: any comments on thread?


    <scribe> ACTION: richard: publish current version of charmod so
    the github bits and status bits show [recorded in

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-453 - Publish current version of
    charmod so the github bits and status bits show [on Richard
    Ishida - due 2015-07-23].

    addison: others can contribute text (I won't stop you)


Summary of Action Items

    [NEW] ACTION: richard: publish current version of charmod so
    the github bits and status bits show [recorded in

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