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Re: Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) in progress

From: Martin Duerst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:02:19 +0900
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To: Daniel Dardailler <danield@w3.org>, Najib Tounsi <ntounsi@emi.ac.ma>
Cc: "'WWW International'" <www-international@w3.org>, W3C Offices <w3c-office-pr@w3.org>, public-i18n-core@w3.org

Hello Daniel,

 From my reading of Najib's mail, especially the
"Yet another breaking of open doors?", it seems that
in Najib's opinion, the real IDN issue with ICANN is that
they drag their feet, now for years, in introducing non-ASCII
TLDs, and with the recent announcement, they just have found
a way to extend dragging their feet for another few months at least.

I would have to fully and completely agree with the above opinion.

I wonder what's the best way to tell this to ICANN, maybe you can
give us some advice?

Regards,   Martin.

At 01:54 07/10/23, Daniel Dardailler wrote:
>Najib, and other with IDN experience, I encourage you to send back your comments on IDN real issues to ICANN and the IDN groups there.
>Najib Tounsi wrote:
>> FYI. Good News
>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (Icann) is speeding up their work to introduce Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs). Icann has published a call for test on this issue. see http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-15oct07.htm
>> The tests are targeted toward 'full' IDNs, i.e. with TLDs in non-Latin scripts such as Arabic, Chinese, Cyrilic, Greek and others. Among other things, the tests aim essentially to
>> (1) "know how the URL displays in browsers" and
>> (2) "How this impacts the root zone"
>> I would like to add two comments:
>> About the point (1), the W3C I18N WG have already carried out a series of tests on how IDNs are displayed in browsers. Results are discussed in:
>> http://www.w3.org/International/tests/results/results-idn-IDNs
>> and
>> http://www.w3.org/International/tests/results/results-rtl-idn-display  
>> (for IDNs with RTL scripts)
>> About (2), technically there should be no problem, since IDNs are converted to punicode, an ASCII equivalent string, before being sent to DNS. Moreover, ICANN have already done a similar test in
>> http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-4-07mar07.htm
>> to be sure "for prudence"  if in presence of TLDs expressed in punicode, "DNS system as a  whole do not behave differently from its normal behaviour."
>> Yet another breaking of open doors?
>> Any other comment?
>> Best,
>> Najib

#-#-#  Martin J. Du"rst, Assoc. Professor, Aoyama Gakuin University
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