- From: Mark Davis <mark.davis@icu-project.org>
- Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:03:06 -0800
- To: "Simon Montagu" <smontagu@smontagu.org>
- Cc: "Jonathan Rosenne" <rosennej@qsm.co.il>, www-international@w3.org, w3c-i18n-ig <w3c-i18n-ig@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <30b660a20703101603i4c119d57m8fc0df81d34642b1@mail.gmail.com>
that would be really good... On 3/10/07, Simon Montagu <smontagu@smontagu.org> wrote: > > I proposed some time ago adding a value "auto" to the css "direction" > property to achieve this result. > > Mark Davis wrote: > > Side issue: Interestingly, we've found that the ltr/rtl options are > > insufficient. What people want in many cases in input fields is the > > "default" algorithm, whereby even on a generally rtl page, the field > > becomes ltr if the first strong character is ltr. Right now we are > > simulating that with JavaScript (but it is a pain to do so). > > > > Mark > > > > On 3/9/07, *Jonathan Rosenne* <rosennej@qsm.co.il > > <mailto:rosennej@qsm.co.il>> wrote: > > > > This was a strange remark. For Arabic or Hebrew texts, little if any > > bidi markup is needed. dir="rtl" on the HTML will do the work. As > > the referenced article says, it is only needed for mixed content. > > And then there is no difference between LTR text contained in an RTL > > document and RTL text contained in an LTR document. > > > > Jony > > > > -----Original Message----- > > *From:* www-international-request@w3.org > > <mailto:www-international-request@w3.org> [mailto: > > www-international-request@w3.org > > <mailto:www-international-request@w3.org>] *On Behalf Of > > *Richard Ishida > > *Sent:* Friday, March 09, 2007 4:11 PM > > *To:* 'Rotan Hanrahan' > > *Cc:* www-international@w3.org <mailto:www-international@w3.org> > > *Subject:* RE: Invalid relationship between bandwidth and spoken > > language > > > > Fixed. > > > > RI > > > > ============ > > Richard Ishida > > Internationalization Lead > > W3C (World Wide Web Consortium) > > > > http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/ > > http://www.w3.org/International/ > > http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/ > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* www-international-request@w3.org > > <mailto:www-international-request@w3.org> > > [mailto:www-international-request@w3.org > > <mailto:www-international-request@w3.org>] *On Behalf Of > > *Rotan Hanrahan > > *Sent:* 09 March 2007 12:59 > > *To:* www-international@w3.org <mailto: > www-international@w3.org> > > *Subject:* Invalid relationship between bandwidth and spoken > > language > > > > A colleague of mine, working in an Arabic speaking region of > > the world has pointed out a comment [1] regarding the use of > > bidi markup, in which it is stated: > > > > "Removing them will significantly simplify the document, and > > reduce bandwidth - which may be an important consideration > > in countries where Arabic is spoken." > > > > This line seems to suggest that there is an association > > between lack of adequate network bandwidth and the speaking > > of Arabic, an implication I am sure was not intended. > > Firstly, the effect of bidi markup on bandwidth consumption > > is negligible compared to the accompanying graphics. > > Secondly, any saving on payload size should be seen as > > universally beneficial, not just for countries characterised > > by the language they speak. > > > > I suggest that the closing part of that statement ("in > > countries where Arabic is spoken") be removed from future > > revisions, as it is unnecessary and open to > misinterpretation. > > > > ---Rotan. > > > > [1] > > _http://www.w3.org/International/geo/html-tech/tech- > bidi.html#ri20030726.132037950_ > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: > > 08/03/2007 10:58 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Mark > > -- Mark
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