- From: Norbert Lindenberg <Norbert.Lindenberg@Sun.COM>
- Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 18:07:29 -0700
- To: www-i18n-comments@w3.org
- Cc: Norbert Lindenberg <Norbert.Lindenberg@Sun.COM>
Dear Richard, I came across the document "Authoring Techniques for XHTML & HTML Internationalization: Specifying the language of content 1.0" at http://www.w3.org/TR/i18n-html-tech-lang/. While this is a very useful document overall, I have a few comments: 1) It would be good to provide some examples for how user agents use the language information. There are two examples mentioned in the abstract, but it seems to me that the most common use of language information on the web currently is for font selection for documents sent as UTF-8. Or what other use do the user agents listed in section 1.4 make of language information? 2) Item http://www.w3.org/TR/i18n-html-tech-lang/#ri20040429.094220724 says "Do not use the meta tag to declare the language of a document." The justification is that "tag is not widely recognized by current user agents." While I agree that using the meta tag alone is insufficient, I don't see any problem with using it in addition to the lang attributes. The meta tag makes the information available in the HTTP header, and in some cases that's all a user agent gets to see (e.g., when making an HTTP HEAD request). What's wrong with that? 3) Item http://www.w3.org/TR/i18n-html-tech-lang/#ri20040429.113217290 says "Use the codes zh-Hans and zh-Hant to refer to Simplified and Traditional Chinese, respectively." These attribute values don't seem to have the desired effect on font selection. In my testing with several browsers, running in English environments but with full CJK support installed, I have not found a single browser that recognizes the script codes. The behavior I see is: - Internet Explorer 6.0 / Windows: ignore "zh-Hans" and "zh-Hant" entirely (i.e., use Japanese font) - Mozilla 1.5.1 Mac, Firefox 0.9 Mac: use simplified Chinese font for both "zh-Hans" and "zh-Hant". - Explorer 5.2.3 Mac: use traditional Chinese font for both "zh-Hans" and "zh-Hant". - Safari 1.2.2 / Mac: lang attribute doesn't affect font selection. I can see why zh-Hans and zh-Hant are better in theory, but if they don't work, they shouldn't be recommended. Best regards, Norbert
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