- From: Daniel Glazman <glazman@netscape.com>
- Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:27:50 +0100
- To: Tantek Çelik <tantek@cs.stanford.edu>
- CC: "www html w3.org" <www-html@w3.org>
Tantek Çelik wrote:
> After having had my own misgivings about the goals[1] and certainly some of
> the specifics[2] of XHTML2, and having first read Daniel's post[3], and now
> Mark's, I think there needs to be a serious reconsideration of XHTML2 as an
> effort at all.
>
> I'd rather see efforts spent on HTML4/XHTML1,1.1,Basic errata and test
> suites. All of these will provide immediate clear value to the HTML
> community. In addition I think there is value in profiling SVG and SMIL for
> integration with XHTML Basic.
>
> Disclaimer: I am Microsoft's representative to, and participate in, the HTML
> working group.
(a) thanks...
(b) I agree with the spirit of this message; from my perspective, what's
important in the "xHTML" name is "HTML", ie a lingua franca for the
web. The "x" is already here and nobody seriously wants to step back
on that.
I am not willing to comment more on the contents of XHTML 2.0. I do
believe the whole thing should be, as it stands now, dropped and
started again almost from scratch at least for the reason given in (c).
(c) after a deeper study, I think that XHTML 2.0 is going to drastically
increase the TCO of web sites. It may reduce the cost of information
systems based on that spec and being independant from a web front-end,
but this forgets about the web itself.
(d) sorry to say, but XHTML 2.0 seems to me the live proof that something is
going wrong at W3C. I feel that this spec represents a solution
maximizing the gap between authors' needs and industrial standardization
compromise. Again, I just cannot believe the HTML Writers Guild was part
of the process that released XHTML 2.0 WD. XHTML 2.0 is only a guru's
dream.
I strongly suggest dropping all "XHTML 2.0" efforts in favor of a new
"xHTML 5.0" language. Clearly a successor to HTML 4, feature-oriented,
made for the _web_.
(e) "considered harmful" essays have at least one major value: they attract
readers. In that sense, I am completely opposed to "considered harmful
essays considered harmful". When compromise leads to nothing, it's worth
shouting a bit.
</Daniel>
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