- From: Dave J Woolley <DJW@bts.co.uk>
- Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:32:30 -0000
- To: "'www-html@w3.org'" <www-html@w3.org>
> From: Gulliver, Deanna XWAVE [SMTP:DeannaGulliver@xwavesolutions.com] > > To add a twist to this interesting perspective, there are clients out > there that simply want frames. > I'd certainly tend to agree. From a personal point of view, I think that accessibility and information are important for the web, but as an employee, I know that I get paid to produce a flashy product for IE4 or 5, and if I were doing an external web site, I'd know that, as advertising, real information is the last thing that the page should communicate. Actually, I think the market demand is really for an interactive page description languague and it is just a historical accident (and the failure of Adobe to provide free authoring tools to students - HTML used to be hand codeable, which is what, I think, established the market) that made that PDL HTML based. In the frames context, I think the effects of removing frames and target= from XHTML will be: - browsers and authoring tools continue to support them as though the standards hadn't changed; or - the market refuses to take up XHTML (which might find a niche in the markets where SGML was traditionally used); or - people simulate target= by using scripting, thus making the pages less accessible, because you more or less need a general object model and Javascript interpreter to cope with even stereotyped scripting because of the possiblity that not every case fits the stereotype. The market role of HTML is not, in my view, the role that HTML attempted to target, but rather the things that the first HTML explicitly said it was not attempting to be. (This is common in computing - a programming language is designed to do certain jobs very well, but then becomes fashionable and is extended to be a universal language, as complex as its predecessors, but different in detail.)
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