- From: David Rashty +972-2-6584848 <RASHTY@WWW4.HUJI.AC.IL>
- Date: Sun, 15 Jun 97 8:00 +0200
- To: Dani Ilan <standard@NetVision.net.il>, Stefan Fuchs <sf@bezeq.co.il>, Israel Ervin Gidali <gidali@vnet.ibm.com>, Nati Guedalia <natig@ncc.co.il>, Gil Mor <gilmor@microsoft.com>, Mati ALLOUCHE <matia@vnet.ibm.com>, Moshe Shalom <moshe_shalom@easx.co.il>, Yevgenia Palanker <pal@actcom.co.il>, Doron Shikmoni <P85025@VM.BIU.AC.IL>, "Martin J. Duerst" <mduerst@ifi.unizh.ch>, Francois Yergeau <yergeau@alis.com>, Gavin Thomas Nicol <gtn@ebt.com>, Glenn Adams <glenn@spyglass.com>, www-html@w3.org, Khaled Sherif <sherifk@caivm1.vnet.ibm.com>, Jeff Rosenschein <jeffr@accentsoft.com>, Chris Wendt <christw@microsoft.com>, John McConnell <johnmcco@microsoft.com>, Yaniv Feinberg <yanivf@microsoft.com>, Erik van der Poel <erik@netscape.com>, Uri Postavsky <urip@rtlsoft.com>, Uzzi Ornan <ORNAN@cs.technion.ac.il>, Chris Lilley <Chris.Lilley@sophia.inria.fr>, "Mark H. David" <mhd@WORLD.STD.COM>, Edward Resnick <Edward.Resnick@Israel.Sun.COM>, ILAN Hebrew List <ilan-h@taunivm.tau.ac.il>, Jonathan Rosenne <rosenne@NetVision.net.il>
Hi Most Hebrew web pages in Israel are still using Visual ordering (ISO-8859-8). This is mainly because the browsers for the Implicit ordering are missing ; Visual is what work best for all. If the standard will not allows using Visual ordering (ISO-8859-8) as a possibility it mean that only in Israel, people that have a Hebrew Version of the operating system will be able to view this pages. Currently there are many people outside Israel who reads Hebrew pages on the web and do not have a Hebrew version of the operating system. I do agree that Visual ordering of bidirectional text is *not* the best way to go. However, for the current time until the Unicode standard will be the dominant and all pages will be using it, the only way to view Hebrew all over the world is by using the Visual ordering, with all the difficulties that comes with it. Most Hebrew web pages use this order not because it is easier to write pages this way but since they are aware of the problems that comes with the Logical order. There are some companies in Israel, *with large interest in this market* that tries to shift the market to use the Logical order and the fact is that more and more *new* web sites are coming up with the Visual order I think that the HTML standard *must* include the Visual standard (ISO-8859-8) as one of the valid options to create HTML pages and strongly appose to ignore it. Sincerely Yours, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | David Rashty Rashty@www.huji.ac.il __o | | Computation Center Bitnet: rashty@hujivms _ \<,_ | | The Hebrew University Phone: +972-2-6584397 Weebbb.. (_)/ (_) | | Givat-Ram Campus Fax: +972-2-6527349 | | Jerusalem 91904, ISRAEL. Visit our Webs at | | WWW.HUJI.AC.IL | | URL http://www.huji.ac.il/rashty | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Received on Sunday, 15 June 1997 01:02:45 UTC