- From: Warren Steel <mudws@mail.olemiss.edu>
- Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 09:40:09 -0500
- Cc: www-html@w3.org
Carl Morris wrote: > And what the hell do you have against FONT. I will say, I have removed > nearly every instance of it off my pages, but since styles sheets are NOT > A STANDARD the FONT COLOR tag provides what I think will be easier than > CSS anyway. Even when CSS are a standard, guess what happens? <FONT> > becomes a form of DIV linked to a style sheet containing the element > properties ... now whats the difference between style sheets and FONT? To > me, the difference is clear, FONT is the winner... CSS will be hard to be > as "human writable" as FONT is. What the hell do I have against FONT? I thought, Carl, that I'd made this pretty clear in the last few days, both before and after the birth of "Wilbur" 3.2. But since you asked, and since it's still on my mind, I'll run it again. HTML is designed for communication. Whether you want to report events, express emotions, vent opinions, sell products or services, or convert the heathens, you want your audience to have access to your message. I realize that this is an assumption, and it may be unwarranted in some cases, but for the moment let's take it as given. HTML offers several ways of distinguishing some text from "ordinary text"; some by their function (<h1>..<h6>, <em>, <stong>, <cite>, <address>), and some by their appearance (<i>, <tt>, <b>, <big>, <small>). Either way has legitimate uses: the functional method may be more reliable, but a well- designed browser will attempt to distinguish even "physical" markup from the run-of-the-mill. Enter the <FONT> element. To be successful, reliable, and useful, the effects of this element should "degrade gracefully" on browsers that do not support the tag, while maintaining accessibility and legibility on browsers that *do* support it. As to the first, <FONT> does no "harm" to browsers that ignore it, but for distinguishing text as "important," it is less reliable than <h1> - <h6> for headings, or <em> or <strong> for individual words or phrases. If you are depending on some form of emphasis to make your point, <FONT> will fail in a large number of cases. So will <SUP>, <SUB>, <BIG>, and <SMALL>, so this is not a crucial issue--wise authors have learned how to use these tags wisely. Now look at the effects of <FONT> on those browsers which *do* recognize it. First, <FONT SIZE= >. I'm sure you're aware that one of the pre-eminent advantages of HTML documents over print media is that they're scalable and configurable--those with impaired vision can choose larger fonts for legibility, while those with limited display areas (laptops, etc.) can choose smaller fonts to get a meaningful amount of information on screen. In either case, users may need, for reasons of access and legibility, a rather narrow range of font sizes. Variations on the order of <BIG> and <SMALL> should not be a problem, and neither should the relative markup <FONT SIZE="+1"> or "-1". But authors are not being told that the use of more extreme relative sizes (SIZE="-3"), or "absolute" font sizes (SIZE="1") or <BASEFONT>, are a definite hindrance to mere communication for users of browsers that *do* recognize <FONT>, while failing to distinguish text at all on those that don't. Are you with me so far? Now let's look at <FONT COLOR= > which you have occasionally embraced. I am not talking about the body-color attributes supported by popular browsers and enshrined by Wilbur. The effects of <BODY BGCOLOR= TEXT= > etc. are under the user's control. For many reasons, users may prefer to disable document color schemes and choose their own default background and text colors, ensuring legibility at all times, while satisfying the user's esthetic taste. Enter <FONT COLOR= >. Let's say you have a document in which a dark background and white text are set in the <BODY> tag. Now, for emphasis, you mark up some text with <FONT COLOR=yellow>. Let's say that I have configured my browser to disregard the body-color tags, and to use my own scheme of black text on yellow background. Will I see your yellow text at all? probably not, unless I happen to view your HTML source. This is not too far-fetched at all. Users have legitimate reasons for their configuration choices. In this case an "innocent" author fails to communicate, because he has used an element which was ill-conceived and never thought through. As a Netscape 2.0 user, I can set my own bodytext colors, but I can't disable the effects of font colors, and the result is failure to communicate. Did nobody at Netscape, or at W3C, consider this? I have never seen the effects of <FONT FACE= >. Suffice it to say, that, just because I may have a font on my system with the same name as a font on yours, there's no guarantee that they look at all the same, regardless of special needs or preferences. A font that looks legible, attractive, and eye-catching to the author on one system may be illegible, ugly, and muddled to the viewer on another system. Again, gratuitious loss in communication. I realize that some authors would like to specify these elements in their documents. Style sheets, as currently proposed, offer various levels of substitution, and preserve legibility for the viewer. But there is nothing to be gained by using the <FONT> element. It is entirely counter to one of the principal goals of hypertext markup, that is communication. I see no reason to include it in the HTML 3.2 specs, even for "backward compatibility." <BLINK> and <MARQUEE> may be merely annoying; <FONT> is an obstacle to communication on the Web. -- Warren Steel mudws@mail.olemiss.edu Department of Music University of Mississippi URL: http://www.mcsr.olemiss.edu/~mudws/
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