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Re: question

From: Christopher Slye <cslye@adobe.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:14:08 -0700
CC: <www-font@w3.org>
Message-ID: <B2177A7C-5677-454C-A8CC-4E368DD38F9B@adobe.com>
To: Sylvain Galineau <sylvaing@microsoft.com>
Some foundries were interested in standardizing EOT and advocated in unison for it. That was called DRM by some browser developers and other folks, and rejected partly for that reason. If EOT's mild DRM was DOA, why consider stronger, newer, or less familiar DRM?

Thomas's assessment seems accurate to me.

-C

On Oct 12, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Sylvain Galineau wrote:

>> From: www-font-request@w3.org [mailto:www-font-request@w3.org] On
>> 
>> "We" being the W3C and browser vendors. Of course many font designers
>> and vendors were very interested in some form of DRM (Digital Rights
>> Management). But ultimately it became clear that browsers weren't
>> going to ever implement anything that even smelled remotely like DRM
>> for fonts, and WOFF emerged as a compromise that delivered useful
>> things for everyone, even if it didn't come anywhere near meeting the
>> initial desires (DRM) of the folks designing and distributing
>> commercial fonts.
> 
> I'm not sure it was that simple. This version of the story assumes those 
> font vendors were willing, able and ready to pay for said DRM systems, 
> their deployment and proper management. Something that, imo, is quite unlikely 
> to be affordable to small foundries. (And maybe attractive to the larger
> ones for that reason ?)
> 
> Imo many font vendors who wanted DRM assumed that it would be reasonably
> effective and cost them very little i.e. browsers would do all the dirty 
> magic and voila ! 'Secure' fonts! All based on the implied assumption that 
> this limited burden would generally result in relatively higher revenue. 
> 
> Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I never noticed the discussion even getting
> into any kind of depth e.g. to answer the question: which DRM scheme ? If the 
> 'desired' solution is a bunch of foundry coalitions fighting it out through 
> incompatible DRM systems, good luck finding web authors to buy fonts. Even if
> there were only one such scheme, it would have to be able to work reliably 
> across browsers, operating systems and from smartphone to desktop. Even without 
> the politics, the technical challenge of designing, implementing and deploying
> such a protocol was orders of magnitude larger than specifying an encoding like 
> WOFF. 
> 
> Bottom line: yes, there was interest but very little understanding of what DRM
> meant and what it would have cost. Not just to browser vendors, but to font vendors.
> 
> 
> 
Received on Wednesday, 13 October 2010 05:14:39 UTC

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