Re: PSA: publishing FPWD of D3E Keyboard {key,code} Values specs and WD of UI Events

On Wed, 2014-05-28 at 18:26 +0200, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Gary Kacmarcik (Кошмарчик)
> <garykac@chromium.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Anne van Kesteren <annevk@annevk.nl> wrote:
> >> UI Events was supposed to replace DOM Level 3 Events, not extend it.
> >
> > None of the UIEvents drafts have ever been a replacement for D3E. The
> > UIEvent spec has always contained information to augment the core D3E spec.
> 
> And delta specifications are a terrible idea. I thought the W3C
> abandoned them long ago. Philippe?

We didn't really abandoned them but yes, we don't recommend this
approach in general.

> >> What happened? What's the plan for fixing DOM Level 3 Events?
> >
> > The plan for fixing D3E is that we're working on addressing all the
> > outstanding bugs for D3E. These FPWDs for the 'key' and 'code' tables are
> > required so that we can normatively refer to them in the next D3E draft
> > (planned for sometime in June).
> 
> I'm interested in hearing a plan around solving
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2014Apr/thread.html#msg26
> as that's the single biggest bug in the UI event picture today.
> They're not defined in terms of the event loop. Are mousedown and
> click in the same task? Do they perform a single hit testing
> operation? Etc.
> 
> You can't really bolt that on top of DOM Level 3 Events and keeping
> its legacy-style way of describing event objects around is not really
> helping anyone.

I'll admit that the current plan/direction around DOM3Events is unclear
to me at this point and I'd like to understand it better before
approving the publication of the two documents. It happened that I was
looking at DOM Events tests over the last week end and the overlap with
the DOM tests was confusing.

I wasn't aware about the split around the keyboard event either (or at
least, I don't remember it). If someone is willing to point me to the
right thread to look at, that would help me and avoid repeating again. 

Philippe

Received on Thursday, 29 May 2014 15:56:35 UTC