[D3E] minutes from 20 May 2014 call

The minutes from the May 20 D3E call are in the following (and copied 
below):

   <http://www.w3.org/2014/05/21-webapps-minutes.html>

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    21 May 2014

See also:IRC log <http://www.w3.org/2014/05/21-webapps-irc>


    Attendees

Present
    Travis, garykac, masayuki
Regrets
Chair
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Scribe
    Travis


    Contents

  * Topics <http://www.w3.org/2014/05/21-webapps-minutes.html#agenda>
     1. things to have done prior to last-call entry
        <http://www.w3.org/2014/05/21-webapps-minutes.html#item01>
  * Summary of Action Items
    <http://www.w3.org/2014/05/21-webapps-minutes.html#ActionSummary>

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RRSAgent: this meeting spans midnight

<garykac> hello?

<masayuki> Hello.

<garykac> Did you see this posting to 
public-webapps:http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2014AprJun/0519.html

<garykac> Regarding the term "default action"

<garykac> We use "default action" through the D3E spec - but it seems 
like we should use a different term to avoid confusion

<garykac> It seems like we should also call out onclick (and the other 
two? events) that are inconsistent with the rest of the events

<garykac> See also the discussion at the end 
ofhttps://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12230#c25


      things to have done prior to last-call entry

What are some of the bugs we'd like to have addressed before last call?

(Ideally all bugs, but this is not a requirement)

The bughttps://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25485is probably 
one to address (integration with DOM4)

Gary is cooking up a change 
tohttps://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25723at the moment as 
well...

<masayuki> I want to resolve 
thishttps://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25683

<masayuki> even if it's not defined, D3E should define browsers MAY 
delay to fire some events and they become non-cancelable events.

Makes sense.

Let's now review the email we wanted to send last 
week:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VqwfHyNDtoOoDzZZ7xZlrcxtcy8ZORV1pUoRjRbwJro/edit?pli=1

The feedback we got was that some of the prose here is very useful for a 
conceptual understanding of the algorithms in DOM4.

We could consider leaving in (after cleaning up) section 3, while 
removing only section 4 (the basic event interfaces)

Section 4 has an intro graphic which was helpful showing the event's 
hierarchy

But then, 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4 are all redundant.

4.5 also (I noticed that IE adds createEvent to SVGSvgElement

scribe:but no other browser does this)

<masayuki> IE supports event constructor, why is it added to 
SVGSvgElement? I think that this should be legacy and browsers shouldn't 
add support range if there are no resonable reasons.

<masayuki> E.g., for improving compatibility with other browsers.

(garykac is fixing Fig. 2 right now.)

Proposal forhttps://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25485is to...

Remove the formal IDL definitions of sections 4.1, .2, .3, .4, and .5

2) Move the hierarchy diagram into section 3

3) Run an editorial pass over section 3 to make it officially non-normative

(remove the MUST and MAY text in favor of "can" and "might", etc.)

(easy reading explainer)

We may want a non-normative replacement for the API definitions of DOM4, 
so that we can cross-link within our document without requiring the 
reader to leave the spec entirely for the definitions.

(Sorry: the IDL definitions currently in section 4)

<garykac> It sounds like we no longer need to send the email out.

<garykac> Since we're going to keep the sections, and only remove the 
redundant stuff.

Let's see if we can tackle some remaining bugs, and then the editors 
will attempt this next monday.

Does anyone have a conflict with another DOM 3 Events telecon next week?

<masayuki> no problem

<garykac> See everyone next week - we're hoping (once again) to have 
most of the bugs resolved by then.

<garykac> I'll finish up figure 2 (and update the spec to remove the 
"issue")


    Summary of Action Items

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Received on Wednesday, 21 May 2014 11:36:46 UTC