- From: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>
- Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:33:53 -0400
- To: www-dom <www-dom@w3.org>, public-webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>, ext Ms2ger <ms2ger@gmail.com>, Marcos Caceres <marcos.caceres@wacapps.net>, Alex Kuang <akuang@microsoft.com>
Given the objections to this CfC, a publication request for CR will not be submitted. The group's next step will be to"endeavor to resolve" the objections as described in the Process Document [Consensus]. Ms2ger enumerates 3 points in his objection [Objection-1]. My expectation is that those supporting the CfC will respond to these points and both the D3E supporters and DOM4 supporters will work toward achieving a mutually agreeable position on them. In Marcos Caceres' objection [Objection-2], he asserts some of the overlaps and redundancies between D3E and DOM4 are confusing and requests the D3E spec clarify its relationship to DOM4. I encourage Marcos to work with the Editors on text and/or changes that clarify the relationships. This CfC created two additional points of contention: 1. Request by Alex Kuang to Review D3E test suites [RfR-D3E] 2. Request by Alex Kuang to add EventException support to WebApps' testharness.js [EventException] Until we have reached consensus on the spec issues, I propose these two requests be postponed and I will reply to those e-mail threads separately. I added a 16:00-17:00 agenda topic for D3E and DOM4 for WebApp's f2f meeting on Monday October 31 [Oct31-Agenda] -AB [Consensus] http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/policies.html#Consensus [Objection-1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/2011OctDec/0108.html [Objection-2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/2011OctDec/0111.html [RfR-D3E] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps-testsuite/2011Oct/0001.html [EventException] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps-testsuite/2011Oct/0002.html [Oct31-Agenda] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/TPAC2011#Agenda_Monday.2C_October_31 On 10/14/11 3:27 PM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: > The people working on the D3E spec (namely Jacob, Doug and Olli) > propose below that the spec be published as a Candidate Recommendation > and this is a CfC to do so: > > http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html > > The comment tracking document for the last LCWD is: > > http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/dc.html > > This CfC satisfies: a) the group's requirement to "record the group's > decision to request advancement" to CR; and b) "General Requirements > for Advancement on the Recommendation Track" as defined in the Process > Document: > > http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#transition-reqs > > The exit criteria has not yet been added to the ED and I request the > Editors to please propose the specific criteria in response to this > e-mail before the comment deadline. It is my expectation that > Microsoft and Mozilla will complete the test suite [TS] they started > and they will implement this CR. As such, I assume the exit criteria > will include a requirement that at least two independent > implementations pass all of the test cases. > > As with all of our CfCs, positive response is preferred and encouraged > and silence will be considered as agreeing with the proposal. The > deadline for comments is October 21 and all comments should be sent to > www-dom at w3.org. > > -AB > > [TS] http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webapps/file/tip/DOMEvents/tests/submissions > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Request for CfC to publish DOM Level 3 Events as a CR > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 03:11:52 +0000 > From: ext Jacob Rossi <Jacob.Rossi@microsoft.com> > To: Arthur Barstow (art.barstow@nokia.com) > <art.barstow@nokia.com>, Charles McCathieNevile (chaals@opera.com) > <chaals@opera.com> > CC: Doug Schepers (schepers@w3.org) <schepers@w3.org>, > www-dom@w3.org <www-dom@w3.org> > > > > Art and Charles, > > We'd like to request a Call for Consensus to publish DOM3 Events as a > Candidate Recommendation. We believe the spec is ready for such > publication on the following grounds: > > 1. Responses to Last Call issues have been documented in a published > Disposition of Comments [1]. > 2. At least two members are targeting implementations of this spec > (Microsoft, Mozilla) > 3. All changes since the Last Call draft have been editorial with the > exception of: > Revision 1.204 - this change was more of a clarification of > intended behavior and it matches implementations. > 4. In a recent Working Group teleconference, we've agreed on how to > move forward with submitting and approving test cases for a suite > (more on this subject to follow shortly). > > We recognize that there will always be new ideas for the event > model--some great new ideas, such as event constructors, have recently > been proposed. But we can't keep DOM3 Events in perpetual evolution. > As such, I've prepared a rough proposal for a new specification to > continue innovation in the event model (preliminarily titled "DOM4 > Events" with event constructors as my first suggestion for scope). I > believe such a spec can be written to extend and improve upon DOM3 > Events in areas that are outside the scope of DOM4 (e.g., event > constructors for interfaces outside the "DOM Event Architecture" and > "Basic Event Interfaces" chapters of D3E). Doing so will give > implementers a stable spec to target (D3E) while still fostering new > ideas and continued improvement in the model (DOM4, "DOM4 Events"). > > I'm sure folks will have some great technical feedback as well as > suggestions for goals/scope of my proposal, and I don't want that to > get mixed in with this request for a CfC. So I'll follow up with a > link to that proposal shortly in a separate thread so we can begin > that conversation. > > Regards, > > Jacob Rossi > > [1]http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/dc.html > >
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