- From: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>
- Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 17:20:16 -0700
- To: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
- Cc: Garrett Smith <dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com>, Simon Pieters <simonp@opera.com>, Steven Pemberton <Steven.Pemberton@cwi.nl>, www-dom@w3.org
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote: > Hi, Jonas- > > Jonas Sicking wrote (on 10/21/10 7:09 PM): >> >> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Doug Schepers<schepers@w3.org> wrote: >>> >>> * mobile Web wasn't really here yet, and Web developers were focused >>> only on >>> the traditional desktop WIMP >> >> I assume that you are referring to the fact that mobile introduced >> activate-through-touch here? >> >> However click vs. activate was an issue long before mobile or touch. >> As long as the web platform has existed we've had >> activate-through-keyboard as well as activate-through-mouse. >> >> So I don't think the above was a contributor. > > No, I'm saying that when DOMActivate was first specced, in 1999-2000, there > wasn't a clean mobile-web model or significant use of inputs other than > keyboard and mouse, so click seemed to serve content authors just as well as > DOMActivate... they didn't need to think as much about an abstraction that > covered keyboard, mouse, touch inputs, voice, and whatever, equally well. > > That dynamic has since shifted, and there is more need for an activation > event... just not necessarily DOMActivate, because of the other problems > with it. I'm arguing that even "just" keyboard and mouse is enough to warrant a activation event, separate from mouse-click and key-press. So the need always existed. Anyhow, I suspect we're arguing an unimportant aspect as we seem to both agree that in an ideal world there would be a separate activation event different from "click", but that's not the ideal world that we're living in. / Jonas
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