- From: Tantek Çelik <tantek@cs.stanford.edu>
- Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:59:51 -0800
- To: Mike Taylor <miket@opera.com>
- Cc: www-archive@w3.org, David Baron <dbaron@dbaron.org>
- Message-ID: <CAEV2_WYGuo+KdrGObrpEDSMJnmPEjOn40L_aicEtPVfNjU98Lg@mail.gmail.com>
Mike, I've tried using nav-* properties in Opera on desktop and have not seen anything work. If you have public test pages that demonstrate Opera on desktop doing something with nav-* properties, please send them along. This is one of those cases where it's just not something supported/used on the public web (feel free to provide URLs to public sites that appear to use it). Behind firewalls or proxies etc. is not important enough to pursue in a CR frankly. I'm going to save the spec text for possible reworking/redesign in a future draft if there is actual public web interest. Here's one thread of many on various "nav-*" problems: * http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Oct/thread.html#msg468 For more just search www-style for "nav-". Tantek On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Mike Taylor <miket@opera.com> wrote: > Hi Tantek, > > > On 2/8/13 3:48 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote:> > >> re: nav-index. The nav-* properties are not well implemented (and I don't >> expect to see that change anytime soon), so I'm planning on dropping them >> in the next CR draft. >> > > Can you provide a pointer to discussion of the issues with nav-*? > > Presto has an implementation and we recommend its usage to developers > working on applications for TV [1][2]. > > As a result, there is existing content in the wild that relies on it. Of > course applications may be using only some parts of it and may be not > hitting the issue that you are referring to (simply may be working around > it in some way). > > Also, there are other specifications that reference it (namely HbbTV). > > In any case, if there are plans to remove nav-* stuff from the UI spec, an > email to the Web & TV list would probably be helpful in understanding what > impact it might have in that space. > > [1] http://dev.opera.com/articles/**view/functional-key-handling-** > in-opera-tv-store-**applications/#spatial-**functional<http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/functional-key-handling-in-opera-tv-store-applications/#spatial-functional> > [2] http://dev.opera.com/articles/**view/tweaking-spatial-** > navigation-for-tv-browsing/<http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/tweaking-spatial-navigation-for-tv-browsing/> > [3] http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/ > > Cheers, > > -- > Mike Taylor > Opera Software >
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