- From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
- Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:53:38 +0000 (UTC)
- To: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
- Cc: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, www-archive <www-archive@w3.org>, Chris Wilson <Chris.Wilson@microsoft.com>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>, Catherine Roy <ecrire@catherine-roy.net>, Gez Lemon <gez.lemon@gmail.com>, Leif Halvard Silli <lhs@malform.no>, Philip TAYLOR <p.taylor@rhul.ac.uk>, Robert J Burns <rob@robburns.com>, Roger Johansson <roger@456bereastreet.com>, W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Sam Ruby wrote: > Ian Hickson wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Sam Ruby wrote: > > > > > > > > I presume, from your e-mail, that you do not consider this to be debate: > > > > > > > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Jun/0173.html > > > > > > | > * We need summary for backward compatibility. > > > | > > > | HTML5 supports implementing the summary="" attribute for backwards > > > | compatibility as currently written. > > > > > > ... is an example of what Laura describes as "selectively choosing > > > those points in a subject which happen to favor a position, while > > > ignoring the rest". > > > > What were the points that were ignored here? > > The fact that summary is non-conforming. Is that relevant to issues of backwards-compatibility? I was under the impression that it was not. I wasn't trying to ignore that or selectively chose a point here. > > > Another, more recent, example is "The browser vendors are the > > > ultimate gatekeepers, of course". > > > > What points does this ignore? I don't understand. > > The fact that no behavior is being asked of the browser vendors. If UAs do nothing with summary="", it won't have any effect on accessibility. So unless I'm misundertanding something fundamental, this is false. > The fact that I did not comment on the remainder of the post you cited > is an indication that I believe that it did further the dialog. This is encouraging; however, it seems that Laura does not share your view, so it would be helpful is Laura could explain why. Cheers, -- Ian Hickson U+1047E )\._.,--....,'``. fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
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