- From: Harry Halpin <hhalpin@ibiblio.org>
- Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 18:05:09 +0100
- To: martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org
- Cc: Toby Inkster <tai@g5n.co.uk>, Renato Iannella <renato@nicta.com.au>, Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>, Brian Suda <brian.suda@gmail.com>, www-archive@w3.org, Peter Mika <pmika@yahoo-inc.com>
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Martin Hepp (UniBW)<martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org> wrote: > Hi, > Just to make sure: I understood there is consensus that the domain of > vcard:adr should be expanded from vcard:vcard to anything that can > reasonably have an address, e.g. persons, organizations, or locations. Am I > right? I think we discussed that before, but I cannot find a reference. > > BTW, the Yahoo SearchMonkey doc does not specify a domain for vcard:adr > > http://developer.yahoo.com/searchmonkey/smguide/vcard-details.html#vcard-adr Yes, that was the consensus. Hopefully later tonight or tomorrow I'll try to get around to actually finishing all those actions! > Best > Martin > > Toby Inkster wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 12:55 +1000, Renato Iannella wrote: > > > 4 - We define mobileTel property but vCard calls this "cell" ? > > 5 - We define a mobileEmail and personalEmail and workEmail > properties, but there is no such semantics in vCard? > > 6 - I am not clear on the unlabeledAdr, unlabeledEmail, and > unlabeledTel properties we define? Are these to capture all the > "old" > types in vCard like bbs-tel, parcel-adr etc? > And, of course, we don't capture these as rdf properties in our > ontology? > > 7 - How to do handle vCard's preferred type? Ie I prefer my workTel > over my homeTel? > > > A while back I wrote a little RDF vocab that extended the 2006 vCard > vocab. It introduces a few extra terms which I thought were useful, > mostly taken from the vCard 4.0 drafts at the time. e.g. a "lang" > property to indicate languages spoken by the person represented. > > One other thing it has though is a more vCard-like way of representing > telephone numbers, e-mail addresses, etc. > > Instead of: > > _:me a v:VCard ; > v:fn "Alice Smith" ; > v:workTel <tel:+44-7700-900123> ; > v:mobileTel <tel:+44-7700-900123> . > > It uses: > > _:me a v:VCard ; > v:fn "Alice Smith" ; > v:tel [ > a vx:Tel ; > rdf:value <tel:+44-7700-900123> ; > vx:usage "work" , "mobile" > ] . > > My primary motivation was to be able to represent the data in the hCard > microformat in a way more closely related to the type+value structure of > hCard communications devices. > > It's not perfect (it breaks the "range" of the 2006 v:tel, v:email and > v:label properties; and vx:usage should probably take a non-literal > value) but perhaps some of the ideas there could be incorporated into > the merged RDF vCard. In particular it should address all of the points > above. > > > > 8 - I assume we don't wish to support Bag, Seq, Alt anymore.....but > just support rdf:list? > > > I don't know why we even would want to support rdf:List? > > Rather than: > > <rdf:Description rdf:about="#me"> > <v:note> > <rdf:Bag> > <rdf:li>Foo</rdf:li> > <rdf:li>Bar</rdf:li> > <rdf:li>Baz</rdf:li> > </rdf:Bag> > </v:note> > </rdf:Description> > > Just use: > > <rdf:Description rdf:about="#me"> > <v:note>Foo</v:note> > <v:note>Bar</v:note> > <v:note>Baz</v:note> > </rdf:Description> > > rdf:List only becomes especially useful when you want to indicate that > the set of values for a property is a closed set. The only useful > application I can see for it in vCard is to represent the structured > name data - i.e. I might want to have an rdf:List of my middle names, so > that people know exactly how many there are (in my case, one) and in > what order. > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------- > martin hepp > e-business & web science research group > universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen > > e-mail: mhepp@computer.org > phone: +49-(0)89-6004-4217 > fax: +49-(0)89-6004-4620 > www: http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group) > http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal) > skype: mfhepp > twitter: mfhepp > > Check out the GoodRelations vocabulary for E-Commerce on the Web of Data! > ======================================================================== > > Webcast: > http://www.heppnetz.de/projects/goodrelations/webcast/ > > Talk at the Semantic Technology Conference 2009: > "Semantic Web-based E-Commerce: The GoodRelations Ontology" > http://tinyurl.com/semtech-hepp > > Tool for registering your business: > http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/tools/goodrelations-annotator/ > > Overview article on Semantic Universe: > http://tinyurl.com/goodrelations-universe > > Project page and resources for developers: > http://purl.org/goodrelations/ > > Tutorial materials: > Tutorial at ESWC 2009: The Web of Data for E-Commerce in One Day: A Hands-on > Introduction to the GoodRelations Ontology, RDFa, and Yahoo! SearchMonkey > > http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/wiki/GoodRelations_Tutorial_ESWC2009 > > > >
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