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RE: mailing list for rdf:text, namespace use

From: Phillips, Addison <addison@amazon.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:13:46 -0700
To: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>, Chris Welty <cawelty@gmail.com>
CC: Axel Polleres <axel.polleres@deri.org>, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>, Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>, Jie Bao <baojie@cs.rpi.edu>, Ian Horrocks <horrocks@cs.man.ac.uk>, Alan Wu <alan.wu@oracle.com>, "www-archive@w3.org" <www-archive@w3.org>
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+1 to the list.

I assumed (and it seems, correctly [1]) that RDF just used xml:lang to serialize "rdf:text". Which kind of gives me pause here.

The problem is that xml:lang is metadata within an XML document. It can be applied to elements other than "text" (although the meaning with non-string datatypes is, at best, difficult to discern). Have you considered just making it a general purpose facet or set of facets? That might be more in keeping with the design of RDF in general. Using it with (say) an integer is kind of silly (but then, so would 'fractionDigits' or possibly 'maxLength')...


[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-rdf-syntax-grammar-20040210/#section-Syntax-languages

Addison Phillips
Globalization Architect -- Lab126

Internationalization is not a feature.
It is an architecture.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sandro Hawke [mailto:sandro@w3.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 3:55 AM
> To: Chris Welty
> Cc: Axel Polleres; Phillips, Addison; Ivan Herman; Felix Sasaki;
> Jie Bao; Ian Horrocks; Alan Wu; www-archive@w3.org
> Subject: mailing list for rdf:text, namespace use
> > All,
> >
> > I don't think there is a need to continue cc'ing the comments
> lists
> > for all the WGs on this thread.
> >
> > I'd like to consider this a task force of RIF, OWL, and I guess
> I18N, let you
> > guys do the work and then report back to the WGs.
> >
> > OK?
> Ooops, yeah.   I've added www-archive to the cc list, so the e-mail
> is
> properly archived *somewhere*, at least.
> Shall I request a new mailing list for this?   public-rdf-
> text@w3.org, I
> guess?
> One odd thing that occured to me (during my sleep, I think) about
> using
> the RDF namespace is that the rdf:text datatype will never be used
> in
> (existing) RDF serializations, because they already have a way to
> serialize such data.  Happily, this lets us avoid worrying about
> the
> constraint in RDF Syntax [1], "Any other names [in the RDF
> namespace]
> are not defined and SHOULD generate a warning when encountered".
> We
> should note this in the spec, I think.  Note also that future RDF
> serializations might choose to use this, so they don't have to
> special-case language-tagged strings.
>      -- Sandro
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-rdf-syntax-grammar-

> 20040210/#section-Namespace
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