Ben Adida wrote: > Bonner, Matt wrote: >>> Not at all what we're doing. A lot of the data will be in HTML to >>> begin with. >> >> Such as? > > cc:attributionName, cc:attributionURL, dc:title, dc:type, dc:date, Aha. I thought you meant tag attributes, not their values. Thanks for clarifying. > Think of a paper listed at a scientific journal. All of this > information is on the web page in HTML, we're just proposing that > they add the metadata. > >> Again, I'm confused. The ccREL Submission proposes XMP for PDF and >> other media types (section 6). > > Yes, that's correct, if you can do it with XMP for media files, go for > it, that's our recommendation. But if that data is going to be in the > HTML anyways (e.g. an abstract page for a scientific paper), then RDFa > also applies. Thanks for clarifying. Doesn't having the license info in multiple places contradict DRY? It seems like (again, as I think Chris was saying) that each document should be solely responsible for its own license information. Why repeat those data in a new page rather than simply have link to the original page like we've all been doing in HTML since the beginning? >>> In general, the tools for XMP are quite a bit harder to use than those >>> for HTML. > >> Why would the average user understand better how to put ccREL data in >> HTML pages than elsewhere? > > Because we hand them a chunk of HTML they can copy-and-paste into > their HTML page, blog post, MySpace page, etc.. Much easier than > anything I know of for media files. But they need to understand IP law and the remixing rules to avoid "copy/paste rot", no? For example, what if I took 3 poems w/ 3 permissive CC licenses, and made a "new" poem that combined them by interleaving the stanzas? I need to understand how to put or remix correct ccREL RDFa data around that. If another author takes that poem and interleaves a 4th, original poem in stanza by stanza, she needs to figure out whether to include attribution for my interleaving, plus how to add/remix her ccREL data... Similar problem if I create a collage of CC photos, remix of 3 CC songs, etc. Copy/paste gets you nothing but trouble here. Likewise, what if I mixed CC content w/ small amounts of non-CC content in a way I considered fair use? Rather than answer here, where it only helps me understand, I would propose clarification in the ccREL Submission on proper remixing of ccREL blocks for mixed content. thanks, Matt -- Matt Bonner Hewlett-Packard Company
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