- From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 11:20:47 -0600
- To: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
- Cc: Chris Wilson <Chris.Wilson@microsoft.com>, www-archive@w3.org
Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > On May 7, 2007, at 7:58 AM, Dan Connolly wrote: > >> Maciej Stachowiak wrote: >> [...] >>> Well, there's people in between where it's hard for me to tell if >>> they would have registered an FO as a follow-on to a "no" vote. >> >> This business where the FO is a follow-on to a decision seems >> broken, to me. The point at which to object, formally, is when >> the question is put, not after the decision is made. > > I've asked around, and that doesn't seem to be the way other W3C Working > Groups do it. I've heard from representatives from the Web API, WAF, > SVG, CSS, CDF, Web Security Context, Mobile Web Best Practices and > Device Description WGs, in all cases they decide by simple majority > after sufficient discussion, and Formal Objections have to be registered > separately. I encourage you to ask other chairs about this. I'm well aware that other chairs in other groups do it differently. I still think it's wierd/broken. > The Process document also says: "In the W3C process, an individual may > register a Formal Objection to a decision." Yeah, I might have to get that fixed. > This seems pretty clear > that the Formal Objection is to a decision actually made, not just a > proposed resolution. I feel a little guilty citing the Process document, > but I really do think a voting process where every disagreement with the > majority must be reviewed by the Director creates practical problems as > cited in my original email. I have no use for "I disagree with the majority" data. I _only_ have use for * I support the proposal; I'm willing to help get it deployed * I object to the proposal to the extent that I want to put the whole project at risk I'm happy to lump all the rest (abstain/no answer/disagree/whatever) together, for formal decision-making purposes. Maybe the easiest thing is changing the label on "abstain" to "abstain or disagree" or change the label on "no" to "formally object". -- Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/
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