- From: Garret Wilson <garret@globalmentor.com>
- Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 07:22:16 -0800
- To: Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org>
- Cc: ietf-types@iana.org, "Sean B. Palmer" <sean@miscoranda.com>, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>, "Daniel W. Connolly" <connolly@w3.org>, Dave Beckett <dave@dajobe.org>, Lee Feigenbaum <lee@thefigtrees.net>, Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org>, Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>, w3-archive@w3.org
There exists serious concern regarding the use of a text top-level type for N3. See the recent discussion on www-rdf-comments. Garret Eric Prud'hommeaux wrote: > Hi all, there are a couple languages that have been used for a while, > turtle and n3, and I am trying work out the right media types to > register for them. > > > == Cast of Characters > ╔══════════╦══════════════════════════════╦══════════════════════╗ > ║ name ║ role ║ current media type ║ > ╠══════════╤══════════════════════════════╤══════════════════════╣ > ║ RDF │ data model │ N/A ║ > ╟──────────┼──────────────────────────────┼──────────────────────╢ > ║ RDFXML │ XML serialization of RDF │ application/rdf+xml ║ > ╟──────────┼──────────────────────────────┼──────────────────────╢ > ║ ntriples │ simple serialization of RDF │ text/plain ║ > ╟──────────┼──────────────────────────────┼──────────────────────╢ > ║ turtle │ textual serialization of RDF │ application/x+turtle ║ > ╟──────────┼──────────────────────────────┼──────────────────────╢ > ║ n3 │ extension¹of turtle language │ text/rdf+n3 (not ║ > ║ │ expressing a superset of RDF │ registered) ║ > ╚══════════╧══════════════════════════════╧══════════════════════╝ > > ¹ The origins of turtle and n3 are complicated, but this is the > most practical model for media type consideration. > > These languages will be published under http://www.w3.org/TR/ > (which implies certain persistance and update policy) as soon > as I work out what to include in the media type registration. > In the mean time, see > http://www.dajobe.org/2004/01/turtle/#sec-mime > http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Notation3 > > Neither the turtle nor n3 media types are registered. I seek advice > from the community on exactly how to register them, as I will have > to beat out some sort of consensus in order to register them. > > > == Issues > • subsumption relationshop — n3 subsumes turtle in both data model and > grammar. To that end, text/n3; and text/n3; profile=turtle have been > suggested. Another suggestion has been text/rdf+n3 and > text/rdf+turtle , in somewhat the spirit of XML (where the +xml > indecates the that it's the XML encoding of the preceding datatype). > > • subtree — turtle and n3 are certainly more human-readable than > ntriples (as they are basically extensions of ntriples, with > namespace prefixes and abbreviations for some atoms). The default > character encoding of iso-8859-1 is certainly outdated, and doesn't > make sense for any of these languages. Garret Wilson (Cc'd) raised > the question of whether a text/ registration may force the charset > to be, say, utf-8². Both n3 and turtle, as well as related langs > like SPARQL, are explcitly utf-8. Can the registration include text > like "The encoding is always UTF-8"? Would that mean that the > media type would not need a constant charset parameter? > > ² http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-comments/2007OctDec/0017 > > > == Strawman > Let me propose: > n3: text/rdf+n3 > turtle: text/rdf+turtle > with > [[ > Encoding considerations: The encoding is always UTF-8 > ]] > and the expectation that > [[ > Content-type: text/rdf+n3 > ]] > (or +turtle) fully specifies the media type and the > character encoding. > > > A plea to all: bear in mind that this consensus bit is a hard job, > and that the world will be much better off if we can reach a timely > compromise. We've suffered for five years without these media types > so let's keep our mission reallistic. >
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