- From: Jeremy Carroll <jjc@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
- Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:12:52 +0100
- To: Patrick Stickler <patrick.stickler@nokia.com>
- Cc: www-archive@w3.org, ext Chris Bizer <chris@bizer.de>, Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>
Patrick Stickler wrote: >>> Section 8.1: "We require [the value of the swp:signatureMethod property] >>> to be a literal URI, which can be dereferenced on the Web..." >>> Question, what is the difference between a URI and a literal URI? Do >>> you mean rdfs:range xsd:AnyURI? >> >> >> xsd:anyURI I think - a literal URI denotes itself in the RDF Model >> Theory and hence can then be used for dereference operation, whereas a >> URIref node denotes a resource, presumbably the same resource as that >> for which you get a representation when you dereference it, but that >> takes us well into the social meaning issue, that we are trying to >> skirt around. > > > But wouldn't you be *wanting* to denote the resource, the method itself? > Otherwise, anything said about that method would not be stated in terms > of that URI. > > I don't think the range/value should be a literal. I think it should > be the method itself, denoted by a particular URI, which might be > dereferencable (or might not). In theory I agree, in practice I don't - let's hear what Pat has to say on this one. In theory, whenever you use a web dereferencable URI the resource denoted has a representation that is got by the URI-GET, however that is not a part of RDF Semantics and I don't think it is for this paper to add it. > >> >>> Also, while requiring the signature method to be denoted by a URI, >>> I don't think we need to go so far as to require that the URI be >>> web-dereferencable. It's *convenient* if it is dereferencable, and >>> it's probably a "best practice" for it to be dereferencable, but >>> I don't see it as an actual requirement. As long as the publisher >>> and consumer understand the URI in the same way, that's all that >>> counts. >> >> >> That's technically correct, however in practice there will only be a >> handful. For the paper I am inclined to leave it as required, it >> simplifies the explanation without any real great loss of generality. >> Without the document it is much harder to write the semantics of >> signature which does actually depend on the method indicated (and if >> that method is by private agreement then it is slightly awkward!) >> > > OK. I won't press the issue. Though I think there's as much potential > for questions/feedback by stating the requirement than by not stating it. > But I'll accept it as is. > Let's hear from Pat. > Jeremy
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