- From: Jeremy Carroll <jjc@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
- Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:48:22 +0100
- To: "Chris Bizer" <chris@bizer.de>, "Patrick Stickler" <patrick.stickler@nokia.com>
- Cc: <phayes@ihmc.us>, <www-archive@w3.org>
Note my section 4 is there mainly for Pat to trash and start over. I tend to think that an approach which permits you to trust (yes/no) a number of named graphs of your choice gets close to the continuum approach that is clearly a more accurate model of how people operate. e.g. as my level of paranoia goes up I will trust fewer graphs. This is then reflected in a classic logic with just t/f Jeremy > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Bizer [mailto:chris@bizer.de] > Sent: 16 March 2004 14:59 > To: Patrick Stickler > Cc: phayes@ihmc.us; Jeremy Carroll; www-archive@w3.org > Subject: Re: more text / Trust bipolar decision or continuum > > > We tend to see trust as a bipolar decision by an agent. You trust > a graph or > you don't trust it. This conflicts with the view of the majority of trust > researchers, who see trust as a continuum. > > See quote from one of my documents below: > "There is a wide range of different trust definitions known from > physiology, > sociology, economic science and computer science. There is no general > agreement on the term "Trust". A comparison of the different views on the > topic and the different trust definitions can be found in [Marsh94] and > [Gambetta00]. Following Joseph M. Reagle [Reagle02], we define trust as: > Trust (worthiness) is the degree to which an agent (human or machine) > considers information to be true for a given time and context. > Our definition refers to the following aspects of trust: > -There is uncertainty in trust situations, which cannot be > eliminated. It is > only possible to minimize uncertainty. > -Trust is subjective. Different users have different views of the > world and > different subjective trust requirements in the same situation. > -Trust depends on the context and changes over time. > -Trust in a continuum and no bivariate property. " > > This conflicts with what we write in Chapter 4: > > "The meaning of a set of named graphs depends on a separate decision about > which of the graphs to accept. We represent this decision as a set A of > nodes naming the accepted graphs. The meaning of a set of accepted named > graphs hA,Ni is given by taking the graph merge Sa2A N(a), and then > interpreting that graph using the semantics of RDF[?]. Any extension > semantics of RDF can be used; in this paper we uniformly use those of OWL > Full[4]." > > I totally agree with Jeremy, that for practical reasons we should have a > bipolar view on trust in the context of the Semantic Web at it's current > state of development. But the interesting question is: Is this > bipolar view > required for RDF semantics or OWL to work or can we be open to > agents using > continuum based trust models (modal logic ??) ? > > I don't mandate, that we should include this stuff in the paper, but it > would be nice if our approach wouldn't exclude future agents that > might use > continuum based trust models (and will have the unlimited processing power > to reason based on these models :-). In addition it would make > our work less > attackable for the trust community. > > Chris > > > > >
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