- From: Libby Miller <Libby.Miller@bristol.ac.uk>
- Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 13:43:14 +0000 (GMT)
- To: Greg Elin <elin@unitboy.com>
- Cc: semantic-photolist@unitboy.com
Nice, Greg. More commments later, but just a quick note to say I've started a vocabs wiki page (at Morten's suggestion): http://esw.w3.org/topic/W3PhotoVocabs Please add to that if I've missed some out. libby On Sun, 25 Jan 2004, Greg Elin wrote: > I've been reading back through all the emails. We are exploring > interesting and important issues. > > The following is the default specification of the *alpha* version of > the repository, based on what I've gathered from the emails and my > understanding of the decisions. > > Feedback encouraged. If possible, identify feedback as: (a) correction > for alpha version, (b) open issue, (c) pre-www2004 > correction/improvement, (d) post- WWW2004 improvement/extension, (e) > brilliant observation and general commentary. Thanks. --Greg > > 1. Document Info > 2. Exec Summary > 3. Alpha Specification > a) Servers > b) Seed photos, data > c) Default Vocabularies and Namespace > d) Default Policies > e) Default User Interface > > __1. Document Info__ > > Specification for Alpha version of W3Photo: A Semantic-Photo History of > the W3 Conferences > January 25, 2004 > Version 0.9 > URL: http://esw.w3.org/topic/W3PhotoSpec > > __2. Exec Summary__ > > The initial system will consist of two temporary "official" servers. > W3photo.org (Greg Elin) will host the photographs. > http://sw1.ilrt.org/discovery/2004/01/w3photo/ (Libby Miller) will host > RDF annotations. It is assumed with these two servers online, > Southhampton can bring up an alpha AKTive Space for the project on a > third server within their control. The "front-door" website will be at > w3photo.org > > We are working only with JPEGs through www2004. We've identified a few > links to existing photos online, some with associated RDFs. Everyone is > welcome to contribute some photos to give us an initial set of 100+ > photos. (It is expected these photos will eventually be contributed > under the license, but we will also be prepared to delete them and/or > re-contribute them.) > > Default vocabularies (ontology definitions) have been drafted. Effort > was made for compatibility with existing vocabularies. When faced > between defining something abstractly or specifically to the context, I > think we've been decided to be specific to this exercise. The drafted > vocabs are: > (Photos) > - vocab for entire image > - vocab for part/region of image (describing region + what's depicted) > (Conference) > - vocab for conferences > - vocab for W3 conference materials, concepts > > The proposed Creative Commons license is royalty-free, attribution, > non-commercial, and share-alike. People contributing photos will need > to provide some identifying information. The proposed privacy policy is > to remove photos if a depicted party request removal. > > AKTive Space is expected to be the default UI for browsing the > repository by the time we get to www2004. A variation of Fotonotes will > be the default UI for regions of images. A simple form will generate > RDF for the image. (The server code will write data appropriately both > into the JPEG via and to the annotation server.) A description of UI > issues can be found at http://esw.w3.org/topic/UserInterface > > > __2. Alpha Specification__ > ___a) Servers__ > > http://www.w3photo.org - front door website > http://www.w3photo.org/photostest/ - root directory of repository > (online, but not finished) > http://sw1.ilrt.org/discovery/2004/01/w3photo/ - interface to add RDF > to public database > > The initial system will consist of two temporary "official" servers. An > explanatory front door web site and an alpha set of images will be > hosted at http://www.w3photo.org on a server in the US maintained by > Greg Elin. RDF annotations for the images will be hosted at > http://sw1.ilrt.org/discovery/2004/01/w3photo/ maintained by Libby > Miller in the UK. > > Other servers, and other applications like Annotea running on these > servers, have been discussed. As most of the group has access to their > own server resources, everyone is welcome to pursue alternatives on > their respective servers with this single request: allow the agreed > upon default servers, UIs, and vocabs to lead in the public face of > this project as we ramp up towards the conference. We need an organized > approach and public face to encourage involvement from others. > > With these two servers online, Southhampton can bring up an alpha > AKTive Space for the project on a third server within their control. > This server will provide the general tools for browsing the repository > and linking the images to conferences, and conference concepts. > > ___b) Seed photos, data__ > > We are working only with JPEGs through www2004. It is fine for > vocabularies to be inclusive of multimedia, but we are staying just > with JPEGS to start. > > Images should be stored in a higher resolution and a web resolution. > The primary reference to an image should probably be for the web > resolution. > > We've identified a few links to existing photos online, some with > associated RDFs. Everyone is welcome to contribute some photos to give > us an initial set of 100+ photos. (It is expected these photos will > eventually be contributed under the license, but we will also be > prepared to delete them and/or re-contribute them.) > > Because we may want to change a few things in the near future, let's > keep this alpha collection smallish. > > ___c) Default Vocabularies and Namespace__ > > Default vocabularies (ontology definitions) have been drafted. Effort > was made for compatibility with existing vocabularies. When faced > between defining something abstractly or specifically to the context, I > think we've been decided to be specific to this exercise. > > Vocabulary for an image: > - vocab for entire image has been described (Libby, is there a URL?) > - vocab for part/region of image (describing region + what's > depicted) - > http://www.wasab.dk/ morten/2004/01/image-regions-schema.rdf and sample > http://www.wasab.dk/morten/2004/01/image-regions-sample.rdf (Morten > Frederiksen) > > Vocabulary for conference: > - vocab for conference - http://www.mindswap.org/2004/www04photo.owl > (Jennifer Golbeck) > - vocab for W3 conference materials, concepts (coming from > Southampton) > > (Discussions around vocabularies were very interesting with active > participation from all. Extra thanks to Jennifer Golbeck for putting > the generalized conference vocab online; the Southampton team for > tackling the hairball of W3 conferences; and Jim Ley, Morten > Frederiksen, and Libby Miller for gathering and sorting out the photo > vocab discussions; Libby has been a special glue in these discussions > and put together example RDF.) > > ___d) Default Policies__ > > http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/1.0/ (summary) > http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/1.0/legalcode (full legal > code) > > Libby's email summarizing policy discussions put forth four suggestions > which seem like a good alpha version of policy: > 1. one license for the core set of photos held > on server http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/1.0/ > 2. remove any photos from the core collection that people don't > wish to be there, without quibble, as long as either they created > the photo or are depicted in it > 3. undertake to correct any errors in the metadata from the core > collection, and remove identification of people in the metadata if > requested by them > 4. reserve the right to remove photos and metadata from the core > collection for any reason (but in practice don't do this unless > there's > a really good reason) > > We are proposing a single license for photos and annotations > contributed to any of the "official" servers. The proposed Creative > Commons license is royalty-free, requires attribution, limits use to > non-commercial, and share-alike. We are putting this forth as an > *alpha* license. We need some legal guidance on this (and the privacy > policy that follows below). There are open issues here. Please *read* > the full legal code before raising any comments on the license. > > It is important to note that the "core" collection of images are images > that are contributed by others. Since the images accepted into the core > agree to the license, which includes attribution, it should be possible > for people interested in using the images in ways beyond those > described in the license to contact the contributing party directly. > > ___e) Default User Interface__ > > AKTive Space is expected to be the default UI for browsing the > repository by the time we get to www2004. A variation of Fotonotes will > be the default UI for regions of images. A simple form will generate > RDF for the image. (The server code will write data appropriately both > into the JPEG via and to the annotation server.) A description of UI > issues can be found at http://esw.w3.org/topic/UserInterface > > (I've got up some Fotonotes stuff at http://w3photo.org/photostest ; > however it should be much better Monday; just threw some things up > their today...) > > Greg > ================================== This is the TEMPORARY discussion list for the W3 Semantic-Photo History Project. For questions, contact greg@fotonotes.net. Subscribe Instructions To: semantic-photolist-request@unitboy.com Body: subscribe Unsubscribe Instructions To: semantic-photolist-request@unitboy.com Body: unsubscribe Help To: semantic-photolist-request@unitboy.com Body: help
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