- From: Barbara Price <bprice@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 13:09:05 -0800
- To: Dan Brickley <danbri@w3.org>
- Cc: Jacek Kopecky <jacek@systinet.com>, "David Fallside" <fallside@us.ibm.com>, <www-archive@w3.org>, <em@w3.org>, "Stephen Brodsky" <sbrodsky@us.ibm.com>
Already done... IBM Silicon Valley Laboratory Internet Address: bprice@us.ibm.com Phone: (408)463-4289 Dan Brickley <danbri@w3.org> on 10/30/2001 12:54:40 PM To: Barbara Price/Santa Teresa/IBM@IBMUS cc: Jacek Kopecky <jacek@systinet.com>, David Fallside/Santa Teresa/IBM@IBMUS, <www-archive@w3.org>, <em@w3.org>, Stephen Brodsky/Santa Teresa/IBM@IBMUS Subject: Re: RSVP: Resolution to issue #29 satisfactory? Glad we agree. Getting the SOAP object model formalised looks to be something of a priority. I've just forwarded my response to xml-dist-app. Could you copy a reply to this msg over there too, so we surface our offlist discussions to the WG...? Dan On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Barbara Price wrote: > > I agree with Dan - using a pluggable encoding for MOF/UML models is a > minimal solution that should work, but the preferred solution is to provide > a mapping from MOF/UML into the SOAP object model. We have already done > something like this between MOF/UML and XML Schema, and believe it should > be possible here too. I will open an issue in the OMG XMI Task Force for > this, and stay involved on the w3c side. > > Barbara > > IBM Silicon Valley Laboratory > Internet Address: bprice@us.ibm.com > Phone: (408)463-4289 > > > Dan Brickley <danbri@w3.org> on 10/30/2001 12:27:49 PM > > To: Jacek Kopecky <jacek@systinet.com> > cc: Barbara Price/Santa Teresa/IBM@IBMUS, David Fallside/Santa > Teresa/IBM@IBMUS, <www-archive@w3.org>, <em@w3.org> > Subject: Re: RSVP: Resolution to issue #29 satisfactory? > > > > (+cc: public www-archive, ericm) > > Hi Jacek, > > thanks for this. I've been trying to compose a response. As things stand I > can't represent anyones views other than my own, ie. I can't speak for the > RDF groups. I'll get a reply out asap. Also I'll send heads-up to SemWeb > CG and RDF Core WG. > > Short preview: I agree that pluggable encodings allows RDF etc to be > serialized. But there is a large cost associated with using alternate > encodings, so we should invest some effort in mapping RDF into SOAP's > object model. Maybe the resolution of the issue could be refined to ack > that we don't encourage folks to diverge from using the default SOAP > Encoding model/syntax. > > what's your view? > > dan > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Jacek Kopecky wrote: > > > (this is a resend with a new deadline information) > > > > Hello Barbara, Dan, > > we kindly request your opinion on whether the following proposed > > resolution to our issue #29 [1] is satisfactory for RDF and UML - > > the groups you seemed to represent in our debate "re: Exist > > non-serialisable data models?". The proposal is copied from my > > message [2]. > > > > The proposal: > > "SOAP specifies how to encode data from the object-graph data > > model. SOAP also allows the encoding of other data models > > representable in XML using custom encoding rules identified in > > the encodingStyle attribute information item in a message. > > Therefore no data models exist that are serializable to XML but > > not serializable to SOAP." > > > > Please note that the issue 29 is based on our requirement R402 > > [3], therefore we ask you whether you see any obstacles in SOAP > > that would prevent you from serializing data in your models, RDF > > and UML, as data inside SOAP messages. > > > > The XMLP Working Group will discuss this issue on its telecon on > > Wednesday Nov 7, so we'd like you to respond by close of business > > on Monday, Nov 5. In the absence of any issues raised by you (or > > by anyone, of course) we'll consider the resolution satisfactory. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Jacek Kopecky > > > > Senior Architect, Systinet (formerly Idoox) > > http://www.systinet.com/ > > > > [1] http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/xmlp-issues.html#x29 > > [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2001Oct/0192.html > > [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlp-reqs/#z402 > > > > > > > >
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