- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 10:37:28 -0400 (EDT)
- To: Laurent Denoue <Denoue@fxpal.com>
- cc: <www-annotation@w3.org>
Well, for most mail (but not Yahoo I suspect) the msgid is readily available and can be used in existing systems. This provides interoperability with other annotation tools - there is nothing more frustrating than having two different and incompatible annotation systems. A hash over the page has some advantages - you know if something has changed. On the other hand that makes it difficult to maintain annotations when a page changes - although this happens less often with mail messages (very few people edit their archived email) it is important for a system that works for both web pages and email in the same way. I would need to see some real benefit over existing free systems before I would pay for such a tool (well, before I would pay more than shareware prices anyway). I am not sure what I would like to see on top of it - the sort of things that I would like on top of web annotations - threading, authentication, a powerful access control system so I could let certain people annotate or give access to certain messages or annotations, ... cheers Chaals On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Laurent Denoue wrote: >Salut Charles, > >It's a good idea to use archives since we can leverage existing Web annotation systems. >In fact, this would also work for Web-based email clients like Yahoo!Mail. > >I developped a prototype in the spirit of Yawas: a very light tool to highlight >outlook emails in your inbox. Sorry: only Outlook, only Windows :( but it's good to test ideas out. > >It does not modify the original messages of course: it simply dynamically highlights them when >the user previews them in outlook. > >To solve the problem of keys for documents, I currently use a signature of each email. >It is computed by simply summing all characters in the email. It has been working very well for the last 2 months on my emails. > >Using a signature of the CONTENT itself is very robust: if you move your email to a different folder, the program is still able to dynamically remap the annotations. > >Quick poll 1: Would anybody pay for such a tool? >Quick poll 2: What services would you like plugged on top of it? > >Laurent. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Charles McCathieNevile [mailto:charles@w3.org] >> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 5:43 AM >> To: Laurent Denoue >> Cc: www-annotation@w3.org >> Subject: Re: email annotation >> >> >> Well, at W3C we archive our email lists on the Web. This means you can >> annotate those. You could also annotate by the message id >> that each email >> has. >> >> Although we can use that as a key into our archive, as far as I know >> there is no reliable way of finding an email mesage that was >> sent based on >> its message-id (happily enough, since most email is >> personal). But I don't >> think that's really a problem for most use cases - if you >> take an annotea >> approach then anyone who has the email can find the id in the >> header and >> query for an annotation - usually that means the sender and >> recipient(s). >> >> cheers >> >> Chaals >> >> On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Laurent Denoue wrote: >> >> >Hello, >> > >> >Does anybody know of a program to annotate emails? >> >Web annotations systems are popular, but emails are also a >> very big source of online reading so it would make sense to >> have such a tool. >> > >> >Laurent. >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles >> tel: +61 409 134 136 >> SWAD-E http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/Europe ------------ WAI >http://www.w3.org/WAI > 21 Mitchell street, FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australia fax(fr): +33 4 92 38 78 22 > W3C, 2004 Route des Lucioles, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France > -- Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles tel: +61 409 134 136 SWAD-E http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/Europe ------------ WAI http://www.w3.org/WAI 21 Mitchell street, FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australia fax(fr): +33 4 92 38 78 22 W3C, 2004 Route des Lucioles, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France
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