Re: How to create nested lists in Amaya?

Le vendredi 21 août 2009 à 14:09 +0100, Helder Magalhães a écrit :
> Hi Corné,
> > At the moment I need to create a list in a list. In source, I like this:
> >
> > <ul>
> > <li>here comes a sublist</li>
> > <ul>
> > <li>This is a sublisted item</li>
> > <li>Next sublist</li>
> > </ul>
> > <li>next item on major list</li>
> > </ul>
> I guess you meant:
> <ul>
>   <li>here comes a sublist
>     <ul>
>       <li>This is a sublisted item</li>
>       <li>Next sublist</li>
>     </ul>
>   </li>
>   <li>next item on major list</li>
> </ul>
> (Note that, in order to create a sub-list, it should be placed within
> the desired list element to be considered a child of that element.)

That's true.

> > I recall by head that I could do this in Amaya by selecting the list
> > function once more. However, in the current version, that does not work as
> > expected...
> Yes, I've just checked with version 11.2 and the behavior is somehow
> buggy. I'm attaching a screen shot which both shows it's possible to
> insert a sub-list and also showing a couple of issues (one is not
> visible, it's behavioral).

I suspect you expected to create a sub-list within the the "3" list
In the snapshot, the sub-list (OOPS) is inserted into a empty list item.
That is a valid HTML structure but I agree it is probably not desirable.

> A. Inserting a sub-list:
> 1. Create the list's parent element ("2" in the example), leaving the
> cursor after the text;
> 2. Go to "Insert" menu, option "List" and select the desired list type.
> B. Returning to the parent element after creating a sub-list (in the
> example, "3" after creating "2.2"):
> 1. Press "Enter" key three times
> 1.1. first creates a sibling element (which would be "2.3");
> 1.2. second (unexpectedly) drops the list;
> 1.3. third one to gets the cursor into the parent level ("3").
> In my opinion, the second "Enter" feels like broken behavior, although
> it makes sense: Amaya places a paragraph ("<p></p>") and other kind of
> content would be allowed (within the current list item's indenting
> level). Nevertheless, I'd vote for Amaya supporting the usual "Tab"
> and "Shift+Tab" key sequences, when the cursor is placed after the
> bullet but before content, to control indenting level: this is the
> interaction paradigm used in most WYSIWYG editors (Microsoft Word and
> PowerPoint, for example). :-)

Today "Tab" and "Shift+Tab" key sequences are used to skip to the next
or previous link. We'll check if it's possible to implement this kind of
control within a list.

> C. Triggering a rendering+interaction bug:
> 1. Before adding any content to a given list item, go to "Insert"
> menu, option "List" and select a list type.
> This is a somehow rare use-case, although I'd say this is
> unexpected/buggy. But, as other browsers were also suffering from this
> in the past (and Firefox still does [1]!), probably this can be
> considered low priority. Note that, as Amaya doesn't seem to support
> HTTPS (doesn't?! I just got very surprised...) -- I got a "Sorry, no
> GET support yet for URLs of this type: https://[...]" error -- I
> didn't checked how does Amaya perform with those (Firefox issue's)
> test cases.

The HTTPS support should be available in next release.

> The problem to me, in this case, is the interaction issue: if one
> creates a child list without any parent content ("OOPS!"), then it's
> not possible to place the cursor in the parent content (in the
> example, the next sibling of "3") without deleting it (place the
> cursor before "OOPS!" and press backspace). This may be a source of
> confusion to users not used to source view... :-|
> > Who knows how I can get the sublist in amaya?
> Hope this helps,
>  Helder
> [1]
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