- From: Irene Vatton <Irene.Vatton@inrialpes.fr>
- Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 16:39:44 +0200
- To: "Sean B. Palmer" <sean@mysterylights.com>
- Cc: www-amaya@w3.org, Irene.Vatton@inrialpes.fr
Sorry for the delay, my mailer was out of service. > Lately, I am having to use Amaya more and more, and in doing so, I > found that I had a few comments (quibbles first, then praise) in case > anyone is interested, arranged as important bugs (IBUG), bugs (BUG), > and features (FEATURE). > > 1) IBUG: It rearranges my code... this is very frustrating indeed, not > only because I like neat source code, but because (for example) if you > use <span> in <pre>, it messes up the whitespace. If I take the DTD or > the XML PI out, Amaya pops it straight back in. Maybe there is a > "preserve source code" feature in there somewhere... if so, then I > think it should be turned on as a default setting - why would anyone > want it messing about with their code (unless the code was wrong)? The support of preserve is in the todo list of Amaya. > 2) IBUG: One of the WCAG techniques is to use <map> to group HyperText > links [1]... and yet Amaya does not seem to display <map> even when it > is used in this way. I know that problem. If you consider that it's important to support that in Amaya we can change our priorities. > 3) IBUG: Selecting text in the main or source windows is staggeringly > slow... sometimes it seems to rescan the whole lot one line at a time. > I do a lot of selecting / copying / pasting and so on, so this is > particularly annoying. [I know that I could use shift+left click, but > this doesn't seem all that intuitive to me - I want it to select > properly when dragging]. We made some progresses in the last version, but Amaya is still redisplaying too often. > 4) IBUG: Temporary redirects or "Found" should have the original URI > displayed, not the new one [2]! This is an impotant Axiom: do not > treat HTTP temporary redirects as permanent redirects. Also, when > Amaya is used to link to this file, the first URI should be used, not > the temporary one. We'll check the specification. > 5) BUG: Line breaks are represented strangely in the output: if viewed > in notepad it shows up as little squares, although wordpad shows them > O.K. This is probably some whitespace programming hack, but it just > niggles me. The problem comes here from notepad which needs the ^M to work correctly. Our position is to not work differently on a Windows and on a Unix platform (the Web should be platform independent). Any modern Web tool is able to read a Web page without ^M. > 6) BUG: Why is "information type" under the style menu? Semantic > elements under style?? I think that they should be under "types", > would be more appropriate. Because these tags work like a presentation style. There are toggles that set/unset the tag around the current selection. It's not the case for other entries in the type menu. > 7) BUG: The latest build (see below for my version details) crashes an > awful lot. For example, it crashed when selecting to enable a > stylesheet, it crashed when synchronizing the source, it crashed when > spellchecking a large document... That's fairly unaviodable, but what I tested these functions on a Windows98 platform and they worked. Could you send us a page that shows these crashes. > is aviodable is crashing when browsing. Why oh why can't Dave > Raggett's HTML Tidy be built into it somehow? Yes, this would slow the > page rendering times down, but I'd rather have slow pages than no > pages. We don't have the manpower to do that. This is listed in open projects concerning Amaya (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/User/Stage.html). Any contributor is welcome. > 8) BUG: It seems difficult/impossible to add rel/rev attributes to <a> > after creating the link. When the element <a> is selected, you can add this attribute. To select an anchor you can select the text within the anchor then hit the key F2. > 9) BUG: It gives phantom parsing errors, such as "line 696, char 12: > not well-formed" - this particular document only had 695 lines in it, > and was indeed well formed XML. This bug is detected by Expat and I never saw this kind of bug. Are you sure that all tags are correctly ended. You can send us the URI if you don't find any cause of the error. > 10) BUG: Why doesn't "show targets" tell you what that target is? Show targets shows all elements that can be used as a target (anchors with an attribute name, elements with an attribute id). > 11) BUG: Sometimes "replace and add to dictionary" doesn't addthe word > to the dictionary in the spellchecker (I haven't verified this fact), > and the spellchecker itself is very buggy: e.g. it puts a dummy > character in front of any first sentence word in a <pre> section, and > suggests you correct it. Annoying if you have a large <pre> section. It doesn't add words with special characters, but no problem with other words. They are added to your private dictionary.DCT The character newline is not interpreted as a separator by the spell checker. This is a bug we'll fix as soon as possible. > 12) FEATURE: It automatically adds "made by Amaya" meta tag at the > top. Can we have an RDF verson of this? Good idea. > 13) FEATURE: Annotations; it would be nice to be able to annotate the > document itself with RDF if you control it, or possibly link to them > with a "rel" - i.e. "these are annotations that the author has made". Probably yes. > 14) FEATURE: Why is there no "right click" menu feature, with items > such as "copy shortcut", and so on? I presume that'll be a WAI issue, > but it wouldn't be all that difficult to program a keyboard > equivalent. Our plan is to use the right button to open a linked page into a new window. > 15) FEATURE: Is there anyway to use a file on hard drive as a > template? For those of us who can't install template servers... I > presume that I could just edit the temple files in the Amaya > directory, but what if I wanted to use a file elsewhere - on my home > server for instance. Not yet. See open projects (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/User/Stage.html). > Some of these gripes will most likely have very simple answers that I > have just overlooked, but I hope that some will aid development. > > For the record, I'm using Amaya V4.3.2 on Windows 98, which didn't > have the cleanest install in the world... > > As for the good stuff... well the best feature is that to link to > another page, you can simply select the text, click "link" and then > click on the page in question - very much like the ol' original > WorldWideWeb browser. I like the "PUT" fuction as well, especially now > I've managed to get a PUT scipt to work on my server. I suppose there > are lots of good features really, like mandatory alt text, and > difficult to find formatting elements. > > Apologies if some of this stuff has come up before, or if any of this > taps a recurring theme. > > [1] > http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/NOTE-WCAG10-HTML-TECHS-20000920/#group-bypas > s > [2] http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/UserAgent and > http://www.w3.org/TR/cuap.html#protocols (3.4):- > 3.4 Do not treat HTTP temporary redirects as permanent redirects. > > -- > Kindest Regards, > Sean B. Palmer > @prefix : <http://webns.net/roughterms/> . > :Sean :hasHomepage <http://purl.org/net/sbp/> . > >
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