Re: disappointed

On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 chimbis@bahnhof.se wrote:

> Towards the very end on the 2nd millenium a being known as Irene.Vatton@inrialpes.fr wrote:
> > In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:15:14 +0200."
> >              <199904201715.TAA01112@Vendragon> 
> > 
> > Do you mean that HTML 4 browsers for blind people are not HTML 4 compliant
> > just because they doesn't display frames as IE or Netscape?
> > I guess you make a confusion between structure compliance and rendering 
> > compliance.
> 
> You got a point there. I just suppose I have a hard time seeing (no pun
> intended) the web as a medium for blind people. I know however that

	Well, maybe you could look at 
	http://www.eng.dmu.ac.uk/~hgs/blind/
	to see *some* of the organisations who are on the WWW relating
	to blindness.  Then there are the organisations for and of
	deafblind people, who basically use braille (rather than speech)
	to access the WWW.
	http://www.eng.dmu.ac.uk/~hgs/deafblind/

> they use it - I actually got a question about my own site from someone
> who couldn't see it.
> 
> > One major benefit of HTML is that it describes information which can be 
> > read on different devices (dumb terminals, large color screens, and in 
> > near future mobiles). Obviously it mustn't be displayed with the same 
> > rendering
> > on all these devices.
> 
> Hmm, no. But then I think you contradict yourself here a bit. As it is

	No, this says "there is not just one way to do this".
	Just because Amaya, Lynx, Getweb, www4mail, do this
	DIFFERENTLY doesn't make them WRONG.  This is no contradiction.
 
> as you say, wouldn't it be appropriate if Amaya could display frames in
> the same way as, say, Navigator? Perhaps one should be able to have an
> option somewhere switching between methods to display frames? 

	So they have to write the code at least twice?  And this is when
	they have all the other stuff to write?
> 
> And my main gripe about Amaya is that as over 90 percent of the
> visitors to my site uses either Navigator or Explorer, and I use frames

	So up to 10% of your visitore are not worth the trouble?  You have
	obviously not considered those in poorer countries who are
	browsing the WWW using e-mail alone.  Those methods
	were started by W3C, actually by CERN, with the Agora program.

> on one part of the site, AND Amaya is an graphical editor it would be
> very nice if I could view the results in Amaya and not have to change
> to some other app for this.
> 
	[...]
> 
> > Regards
> >   Irene.
> > 
> Cheers,
> 
> Martin S.
> 
> 
	Hugh
	hgs@dmu.ac.uk

Received on Thursday, 22 April 1999 05:09:26 UTC