[AAPI] Minutes UAI TF Meeting Tuesday, 18 April 2017

Link: https://www.w3.org/2017/04/18-aapi-minutes.html

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   [1]W3C

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   Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference

18 Apr 2017

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2017/04/18-aapi-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Joanmarie_Diggs, Bryan_Garaventa, Joseph_Scheuhammer,
          Richard_Schwerdtfeger

   Regrets
   Chair
          Joseph_Scheuhammer

   Scribe
          joanie

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4](Joanie) AX API mapping issues and testing (weekly
            checkin)
         2. [5]Joseph's Departure
         3. [6](All) Level of detail in UIA mappings.
         4. [7](All) Various pull requests for fixes to Core-AAM
     * [8]Summary of Action Items
     * [9]Summary of Resolutions
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   <clown> agenda: this

   <scribe> scribe: joanie

(Joanie) AX API mapping issues and testing (weekly checkin)

   JD: I am still working on mapping issues and testable
   statements, mainly fixing testable statements, finding issues
   (such as the roledescription of "status" being "application
   status" -- and not "status", as is in the Core AAM -- in Safari
   as far back as at least 2012.
   ... I am filing issues in github against Core AAM and providing
   patches when time permits. Joseph has been reviewing these and
   providing feedback and/or committing them as appropriate.
   ... Because of this work, along with the ATTA development, I've
   not yet gotten to the implementation work.

   (Group digs a bit more into the status roledescription issue)

   JS: Looking at the test case (URL pasted above), Mona Heath
   passed the test with the following note: "AXRoleDescription is
   'application status'"
   ... That is not a pass.
   ... It looks to me like it always should have been "application
   status"

   JD: I will do a pull request after this meeting to fix status.

   JS: Or you can just let me do it.

   <clown> ACTION: Joseph to correct the AXRoleDescription for
   role="status" to be "application status", not "status".
   [recorded in
   [10]http://www.w3.org/2017/04/18-aapi-minutes.html#action01]

     [10] http://www.w3.org/2017/04/18-aapi-minutes.html#action01

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-2137 - Correct the axroledescription
   for role="status" to be "application status", not "status". [on
   Joseph Scheuhammer - due 2017-04-25].

   JD: Sure!

   <clown> action-2137?

   <trackbot> action-2137 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Correct the
   axroledescription for role="status" to be "application status",
   not "status". -- due 2017-04-25 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [11]http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2137

     [11] http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2137

   JS: I guess this is not merely editorial.

   JD: It is not. In fact, if memory serves me, Google Chrome
   Canary has what's in the Core AAM. I'll email Dominic with an
   explanation.

   JS: I've given myself an action.
   ... So this is an ARIA 1.1 change, even though it was true/in
   place/implemented in 1.0.

Joseph's Departure

   JS: Next week is the last time I will be running these
   meetings.

   Group: This sucks.

   JS: It looks like Joanie is probably going to become editor of
   the Core AAM.
   ... And Rich will probably chair these meetings.

   RS: (Groans)

   Group: Laments lack of time employers permit us all to spend on
   this work.

(All) Level of detail in UIA mappings.

   <clown> [12]https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/552

     [12] https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/552

   JS: Bogdan has given me a pull request.
   ... I've already reviewed it once, providing grammar and
   spelling suggestions.

   <clown>
   [13]https://rawgit.com/boggydigital/aria/patch-3/core-aam/core-
   aam.html#uia-ui-automation

     [13]
https://rawgit.com/boggydigital/aria/patch-3/core-aam/core-aam.html#uia-ui-automation

   JS: He's already done those changes.
   ... I just put a URL in for his new text.
   ... Personally I think it's very good.
   ... If we accept this, he will then go on and tweak the tables,
   etc.
   ... He wants confirmation that we like what he's done so far.

   RS: I think this is fine.

   JS: The last paragraph begins with "Note:"

   RS: You want the styling for notes added?

   JS: Actually I want the "Note:" removed.

   JD: Point of clarification, is this text stating that the
   getters will all work and are independent of, say,
   interfaces/patterns?

   JS: That is my understanding.

   JD: Then I'm good.

(All) Various pull requests for fixes to Core-AAM

   JS: There were a number of pull requests last week, mostly from
   Joanie.
   ... I've dealt with most of them.
   ... Joanie has closed most of them since I've merged the
   changes.
   ... There was also an editorial change, to add "Implement" in
   front of a number of mappings.
   ... I just pushed that before the meeting.
   ... Another change that Joanie provided a fix for was to change
   the subrole of group role in AXAPI.
   ... We'll need a test for that.

   JD: I thought we might get that "for free" from another test
   where the role is AXGroup.
   ... But that's not the case.
   ... We can add a new test case to the Core AAM section on
   testable statements.

   JS: Lastly, Joanie opened a new issue regarding
   aria-orientation.
   ... And I had a question about that.

   <clown> [14]https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/560

     [14] https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/560

   JS: The URL above is for the issue Joanie opened.
   ... To summarize, between ARIA 1.0 and 1.1, the default value
   of aria-orientation changed from horizontal to undefined.

   [15]https://www.w3.org/wiki/ARIA_1.1_Testable_Statements#aria-o
   rientation

     [15]
https://www.w3.org/wiki/ARIA_1.1_Testable_Statements#aria-orientation

   JD: At the above link, there's a list of all the changes
   (though I believe scrollbar was vertical in 1.0, but ignoring
   that....)

   JS: Do we need to add all these to the Core AAM?

   Group: Agreement that we remove "default" from horizontal. We
   add a table for undefined (not mapped for all platforms). We
   mark it 1.1. Is that it?

   JD: I'd also remove "scrollbar" (if that's the role) that is
   shown in Core AAM's "vertical" mapping.

   <clown>
   [16]https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/core-aam/core-aam.html#a
   uthorErrorDefaultValuesTable

     [16]
https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/core-aam/core-aam.html#authorErrorDefaultValuesTable

   JS: Is aria-orientation required for scrollbar?

   JD: I *think* so.

   JS: Then it would need to have an entry in the errors section.
   ... It all depends on whether it is required or not.

   [17]https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/aria.html#scrollbar

     [17] https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/aria.html#scrollbar

   BG: Because it says there is an implicit value, that suggests
   that functionally it is required.

   JS: I will go through each of these roles, and if it's not in
   the "required" states and properties of the ARIA spec, I will
   not add it to the errors section of the Core AAM.

   <clown> ACTION: joseph to remove the current aria-orientation
   default value, and add mapping for aria-orientation is
   undefined, and modify the
   default-values-for-required-attributes author errors table as
   needed. [recorded in
   [18]http://www.w3.org/2017/04/18-aapi-minutes.html#action02]

     [18] http://www.w3.org/2017/04/18-aapi-minutes.html#action02

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-2138 - Remove the current
   aria-orientation default value, and add mapping for
   aria-orientation is undefined, and modify the
   default-values-for-required-attributes author errors table as
   needed. [on Joseph Scheuhammer - due 2017-04-25].

   <clown> action-2138

   <trackbot> action-2138 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Remove the
   current aria-orientation default value, and add mapping for
   aria-orientation is undefined, and modify the
   default-values-for-required-attributes author errors table as
   needed. -- due 2017-04-25 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [19]http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2138

     [19] http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2138

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Joseph to correct the AXRoleDescription for
   role="status" to be "application status", not "status".
   [recorded in
   [20]http://www.w3.org/2017/04/18-aapi-minutes.html#action01]
   [NEW] ACTION: joseph to remove the current aria-orientation
   default value, and add mapping for aria-orientation is
   undefined, and modify the
   default-values-for-required-attributes author errors table as
   needed. [recorded in
   [21]http://www.w3.org/2017/04/18-aapi-minutes.html#action02]

     [20] http://www.w3.org/2017/04/18-aapi-minutes.html#action01
     [21] http://www.w3.org/2017/04/18-aapi-minutes.html#action02

Summary of Resolutions

   [End of minutes]

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