Re: [aapi] aria-ISSUE-1015 (uia-express): Firefox interested in doing UIA-Express. We may need to un-deprecate it. [ARIA 1.1 Core Mapping Specification]

Let’s please move this discussion to https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/404. 

I proceed with moving the role info from the MSAA+UIAExpress column to the the MSAA+IA2 column. I’ve created the “html-remove-uiaexpress” branch in GH to do this.

Jason


> On 16/08/2016, at 9:43 AM, Jason Kiss <jason@accessibleculture.org> wrote:
> 
> Ok. So, to confirm, we can delete the MSAA + UIA Express column, and move the  MSAA role to the MSAA + IA2 column, so that for something like the <abbr> element, we'd have the following:
> 
> MSAA Role: ROLE_SYSTEM_TEXT
> IA2 Role: IA2_ROLE_TEXT_FRAME
> Object attributes: "abbr" attribute on the containing td if a single child, text content used as a value
> Interfaces: IAccessibleText2; IAccessibleHypertext2;
> Or is it clear enough from the role names which API they belong to such that we could include them together? For example, 
> 
> Roles: ROLE_SYSTEM_TEXT; IA2_ROLE_TEXT_FRAME
> 
> Any preference?
> 
> Jason
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 5:13 AM, Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexander@gmail.com> wrote:
> > You know, we can move MSAA roles to MSAA + IA2 column instead, then UIA
> > patterns will be matched by UIA column. Do we have anything left?
> > Thanks.
> > Alexander.
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Jason Kiss <jason@accessibleculture.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I also prefer the idea of adding notes to the UIA column. 
> >>
> >> Alex, wrt the HTML-AAM, can you give me an impression of what from the
> >> existing MSAA + UIA Express column needs to be added as a note to the UIA
> >> column, for which elements and properties? Once that’s done, we can get rid
> >> of the MSAA + UIA Express column.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/08/2016, at 7:43 AM, Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexander@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi, Cynthia. Sorry for my late reply. If you're still looking for my
> >> input, then notes in UIA column should work well.
> >> Alex.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Alex,
> >>>
> >>> I recall you saying in another context that Firefox was interested in UIA
> >>> Express. The column for it was removed from Core-AAM, and is pretty sparse
> >>> in HTML-AAM. We need to figure out how best to document it.  Most of the
> >>> mappings will be the same as the UIA mappings. What do you think is the best
> >>> way to document the places where it's different? We could add notes to the
> >>> UIA column where needed, or have a separate column where we copy the UIA
> >>> column and add the notes.  I think I'd prefer to have a single column if we
> >>> can, because it will be easier to maintain in the spec. Do you think that
> >>> would work for you? We're not doing any more development on the
> >>> implementation in IE, so you're the main customer right now.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Cynthia
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Issue Tracker
> >>> [mailto:sysbot+tracker@w3.org]
> >>> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 9:20 AM
> >>> To: public-aria@w3.org
> >>> Subject: aria-ISSUE-1015 (uia-express): Firefox interested in doing
> >>> UIA-Express. We may need to un-deprecate it. [ARIA 1.1 Core Mapping
> >>> Specification]
> >>>
> >>> aria-ISSUE-1015 (uia-express): Firefox interested in doing UIA-Express.
> >>> We may need to un-deprecate it. [ARIA 1.1 Core Mapping Specification]
> >>>
> >>> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/1015
> >>>
> >>> Raised by: Cynthia Shelly
> >>> On product: ARIA 1.1 Core Mapping Specification
> >>>
> >>> Firefox has expressed interest in doing UIA Express. We may need to
> >>> un-deprecate it. If we do that, I propose we start by copying the UIA
> >>> column, and then making notes where there is a difference.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> 



Jason Kiss
jason@accessibleculture.org
http://www.accessibleculture.org

Received on Wednesday, 17 August 2016 02:07:54 UTC