- From: Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@whatsock.com>
- Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 13:17:37 -0800
- To: "James Craig" <jcraig@apple.com>
- Cc: "Richard Schwerdtfeger" <schwer@us.ibm.com>, "Cynthia Shelly" <cyns@microsoft.com>, "Jason White" <jason@jasonjgw.net>, "Gunderson, Jon R" <jongund@illinois.edu>, "T.V Raman" <raman@google.com>, <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>, <wai-xtech@w3.org>
I understand, thanks. What I'm seeing is a lot of mixing of the attributes alt="", aria-label="", role="presentation", and references to images. E.G as Richard said "WCAG 2 would like developers to be able to use aria-label vs. alt for labeling content. The reason for this is that ARIA has become a common accessibility API for the Web and it spans more content than just images. However, to do this we want authors to NOT use aria-label="". That is inherently bad as it gets misused. Rather when people provide a label we want it to be be meaningful. However, elements that are indeed presentational we want to allow them to convey that semantically and do it in such a way that is with less pain. Allowing for a role="" to have the same functionality as role="presentation" and having the added benefit of removing the thing from the accessibility object tree as it is useless will allow for improved AT peformance - something that alt="" does not do. James' suggestion is solid." As I said, I understand the logic, and I'm sorry if I've made an issue of this. It's important to be clear that role="presentation" applies to all elements and has no direct connection with alt="" or aria-label other than to remove the tag that it applies to from the accessibility tree. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Craig" <jcraig@apple.com> To: "Bryan Garaventa" <bryan.garaventa@whatsock.com> Cc: "Richard Schwerdtfeger" <schwer@us.ibm.com>; "Cynthia Shelly" <cyns@microsoft.com>; "Jason White" <jason@jasonjgw.net>; "Gunderson, Jon R" <jongund@illinois.edu>; "T.V Raman" <raman@google.com>; <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>; <wai-xtech@w3.org> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:51 PM Subject: Re: PFWG-ISSUE-348: Consider renaming (now actually 'deprecating' in ARIA 1.1) role="presentation" to avoid avoid author confusion On Jan 30, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@whatsock.com> wrote: > So would "" be a direct mirror of the role presentation? Meaning that it > does exactly the same thing? Just to clarify. This is an item for discussion. Nothing is decided… But yes, that was my intention. role="" would be a synonym for role="presentation"
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