- From: Sailesh Panchang <sailesh.panchang@deque.com>
- Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 12:52:01 -0500
- To: Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@whatsock.com>
- Cc: stefan.schnabel@sap.com, Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>, wai-xtech@w3.org
Bryan, I believe, NVDA is at fault for completely ignoring the aria-label on the anchor. Practically speaking, with reference only to an anchor element with visible anchor text: If some additional (descriptive / advisory) text is needed to more clearly convey the link's purpose especially to non-sighted users, the title attribute is better suited. JAWS reads the title if it is different from anchor text ... I had suggested this to FS long time ago and it has been implemented since JAWS 13 I think. NVDA which depends on Firefox exposes both title and anchor text even if they are identical. The title is exposed on mouseover to users who might be able to use a mouse and discover it. If aria-label text is also to be rendered along with the anchor text, I think it is a mere duplication of the title attribute and it is quite redundant then. Besides, only ARIA-enabled browser/AT users can use it. And it is simply not exposed visually. Aria-label on an anchor with visible anchor text is useful only when assistive technology render the aria-label text and not the anchor text. This migh be of use in some situations mainly to help non-sighted users understand the link's purpose . Thanks, Sailesh On 2/5/14, Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@whatsock.com> wrote: > Thanks, that does help a lot. > > When using Firefox with JAWS, it does indicate the aria-label value as the > label for the link, only in IE does this differ, so I'm inclined to enter a > > bug to match the Firefox functionality since it seems to most closely match > > the spec. > > Stefan, thanks, I see what you mean. > > The part of the calculation that appears to be most relevant here though is > > where it says > > Authors MAY specify an element's text alternative in content attributes, > used in this order of preference: > a.. The aria-labelledby attribute takes precedence as the element's text > alternative unless this computation is already occurring as the result of a > > recursive aria-labelledby declaration (in other words, aria-labelledby is > not recursive when referenced from another element, so it will not cause > loops). However, the element's aria-labelledby attribute can reference the > element's own IDREF in order to concatentate a string provided by the > element's aria-label attribute or another feature lower in this preference > list. The text alternatives for all the elements referenced will be computed > > using this same set of rules. User agents will then trim whitespace and join > > the substrings using a single space character. Substrings will be joined in > > the order specified by the author (IDREF order in the aria-labelledby > attribute). > b.. If aria-labelledby is empty or undefined, the aria-label attribute, > which defines an explicit text string, is used. However, if this computation > > is already occurring as the result of a recursive text alternative > computation and the current element is an embedded control as defined in > rule 2B, ignore the aria-label attribute and skip directly to rule 2B. > > Since rule 2B appears to deal with embedded active elements and not plain > text via static elements, it appears not to be applicable. > > So it looks like JAWS is doing this correctly in Firefox, but not within IE, > > and NVDA isn't following the order of preference in either IE or FF. > > Granted nothing here is mandated, but it would be nice if they were > consistent. :) > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joseph Scheuhammer" <clown@alum.mit.edu> > To: "Bryan Garaventa" <bryan.garaventa@whatsock.com>; <wai-xtech@w3.org> > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 7:01 AM > Subject: Re: Regarding the accessible name calculation for aria-label within > > links? > > >> Hi Bryan, >> >>> So, if I understand correctly, the following link >>> >>> <a href="#" aria-label="December 31, 2013">31</a> >>> >>> Should be named "December 31, 2013" in Applications/Browse Mode as well >>> as within the Virtual Buffer. >> >> Given your example the accessible name exposed through the a11y API is >> "December 31, 2013". >> >> The A element is exposed as a link in the a11y API. The characteristics >> table of the link role states that the can come from either the author or >> >> the contents (http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/roles#link). In other words, >> >> the author can specify a name if they choose. If they don't, then the >> name defaults to the contents. >> >> I tested your example with FF 27, and Safari 6.1.1, and used an inspector >> >> to see what was exposed through the a11y API. FF exposes "December 31, >> 2013" as the name. Safari exposes it as the description. The latter is >> expected according to the UAIG (see the states and properties table entry >> >> for aria-label for AXAPI: >> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_state-property_table). >> >> In short, both browsers are conforming to the ARIA documents. >> >> As for how screen readers present this in application/browse mode versus >> the virtual buffer, that's beyond the ARIA specifications. At present, the >> >> specs state what browsers must/should do with the aria markup and leave it >> >> to the ATs to decide how to present it. >> >> Hope that helps. >> >> -- >> ;;;;joseph. >> >> >> 'A: After all, it isn't rocket science.' >> 'K: Right. It's merely computer science.' >> - J. D. Klaun - >> > > >
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