- From: James Craig <jcraig@apple.com>
- Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 13:19:15 -0800
- To: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>
- Cc: "wai-xtech@w3.org WAI-XTECH" <wai-xtech@w3.org>
I'm leaning toward it being a bug, and I was about to quote the same section as Joseph.
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/complete#host_general_conflict
Because there is no native attribute for level in the HTML, I think the expectation is to allow @aria-level to override here.
<h1 aria-level="2">Foo</h1> <!-- implicit 1, explicit 2 -->
This also seems to be more useful in the context of section-nested heading levels.
<section>
<h1 aria-level="2">Foo</h1> <!-- implicit 1, explicit 2 -->
<section>
<h1 aria-level="3">Bar</h1> <!-- implicit 2, explicit 3 -->
</section>
</section>
Arguably, the explicitly attribute declaration of role="heading" is merely informative on an element that already has that as its implicit native role semantic.
IOW, these two are identical:
<h1>Foo</h1>
<h1 role="heading">Foo</h1>
So why shouldn't these be identical?
<h1 aria-level="2">Foo</h1>
<h1 aria-level="2" role="heading">Foo</h1>
James
On Jan 11, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> FF overrides. It exposes a level of three for your example, (and a role of HEADING):
>> <h1 aria-level="3">Foo</h1>
>
> The same info is given for an h3 -- it's a HEADING with a level of three, e.g.,
>
> <h3>Foo</h3>
>
> Specifics: in both IA2 and AT-SPI, the level information is exposed via the object attribute "level". The above results are consistent with the UAIG states and properties table (http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_state-property_table) -- see the aria-level row. There is nothing specific about interactions between the heading role and aria-level in the UAIG; in particular, the role mapping table entry for heading says nothing about levels.
>
> This issue may be covered by the "Conflicts with Host Languages Semantics" section ( http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/host_languages#host_general_conflict):
>
>> When WAI-ARIA states and properties correspond to host language features that have the same implicit WAI-ARIA semantic, it can be problematic if the values become out of sync. For example, the HTML |checked| attribute and the |aria-checked| attribute could have conflicting values. Therefore to prevent providing conflicting states and properties to assistive technologies, host languages will explicitly declare where the use of WAI-ARIA attributes on a host language element conflict with native attributes for that element. When a host language declares a WAI-ARIA attribute <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#def_attribute> to be in direct semantic conflict with a native attribute for a given element, user agents *MUST* ignore the WAI-ARIA attribute and instead use the host language attribute with the same implicit semantic.
>
> But I'm not sure this applies to the situation at hand, since the heading level of native <hn> elements is not an attribute.. Also, there is no *role* mapping for each value of n in AAPIs -- there are no roles HEADING1, HEADING2, and so on in AAPIs. There is only a HEADING role. Thus, there is no direct conflict between a WAI-ARIA attribute and a native attribute. Then again, an <h1> with an aria-level="3" is an implicit conflict on the face of it.
>
> Perhaps this is a factor: aria-level has no upper bound, whereas, <h6> is as high as the <hn> elements go. If authors wanted a heading level greater than six, they couldn't use <hn> without an aria-level to modify it. Of course, they could also use <div role="heading" aria-level="10">.
>
> *wishing that html headings had been of the form <heading level="x"> from the start*
>
> --
> ;;;;joseph.
>
>
> 'A: After all, it isn't rocket science.'
> 'K: Right. It's merely computer science.'
> - J. D. Klaun -
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