- From: Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:06:24 -0500
- To: Michael A Squillace <masquill@us.ibm.com>
- Cc: amy.x.chen@oracle.com, "Becky Gibson" <Becky_Gibson@notesdev.ibm.com>, "Chris Blouch" <chris.blouch@corp.aol.com>, "Joseph Scheuhammer" <clown@utoronto.ca>, "Hadi Rangin" <hadi@illinois.edu>, "James Nurthen" <james.nurthen@oracle.com>, "Jon Gunderson" <jongund@uiuc.edu>, Jon Gunderson <jongund@illinois.edu>, "Schnabel, Stefan" <stefan.schnabel@sap.com>, "Wlodkowski, Thomas" <thomas.wlodkowski@corp.aol.com>, vtsaran@yahoo-inc.com, W3C WAI-PFWG <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>, W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>, wai-xtech-request@w3.org
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Mike, I am not sure if this fixes your poblem but the new table support for grid is in FF 3.6: This is from Marco: Last night I verified that the stuff all landed fine in the Firefox 3.6b2pre build. It will *not* be in the upcoming "official" beta1 since that code was branched before we landed the IAccessibleTable2 support. Feel free to disseminate the below links to all parties interested to download: Zip file: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-mozilla-1.9.2/firefox-3.6b2pre.en-US.win32.zip. Full installer: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-mozilla-1.9.2/firefox-3.6b2pre.en-US.win32.installer.exe. Rich Schwerdtfeger Distinguished Engineer, SWG Accessibility Architect/Strategist Michael A Squillace/Austin/ IBM@IBMUS To Sent by: Jon Gunderson wai-xtech-request <jongund@illinois.edu> @w3.org cc amy.x.chen@oracle.com, "Becky Gibson" 10/27/2009 04:36 <Becky_Gibson@notesdev.ibm.com>, PM "Chris Blouch" <chris.blouch@corp.aol.com>, "Joseph Scheuhammer" <clown@utoronto.ca>, "Hadi Rangin" <hadi@illinois.edu>, "James Nurthen" <james.nurthen@oracle.com>, "Jon Gunderson" <jongund@uiuc.edu>, "Schnabel, Stefan" <stefan.schnabel@sap.com>, "Wlodkowski, Thomas" <thomas.wlodkowski@corp.aol.com>, vtsaran@yahoo-inc.com, W3C WAI-PFWG <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>, W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>, wai-xtech-request@w3.org Subject Re: ARIA Grid Example using the DHTML keyboard style guide Couple of observations with Jaws 11/FF3.5: 1. odd that INS+UP doesn't read the current cell; never had to use INS +NUMPAD 5 before and not sure how that would work on a laptop 2. the table headers are announced twice, once as Jaws messages and then again, I suppose, as accessible names (different source for sure bc I use different voice profiles for each type of announcement) 3. the alert role is announced even when you enter valid values (e.g. enter 100 into the car rental field and I hear 'alert' three times); the role + the msg for invalid entries works well 4. the live region for the totals causes Jaws to read the table summary, "ARIA enabled Tavel Reimbursement Form Example," the contents of the first cell of the row, sometimes the table headers for that cell, and then the actual new total, which is a little confusing 5. tabbing into the grid works as expected but using the arrow keys to navigate the document in the virtual buffer only notes an application landmark and then another down arrow, an editable grid role for the next element; this might be odd for some users and is not how Jaws treats regular HTML form controls, for which it automatically enters application mode whether you use TAB or the arrow keys Overall, though, nice example and very powerfully demonstrates WAI-ARIA capabilities. --> Mike Squillace IBM Human Ability and Accessibility Center W:512.286.8694 M:512.970.0066 External: http://www.ibm.com/able Internal: http://w3.ibm.com/able Jon Gunderso n <jongund To @illinoi "Becky Gibson" <Becky_Gibson@notesdev.ibm.com>, "Chris s.edu> Blouch" <chris.blouch@corp.aol.com> Sent by: cc wai-xtec amy.x.chen@oracle.com, "Joseph Scheuhammer" h-reques <clown@utoronto.ca>, "Hadi Rangin" <hadi@illinois.edu>, t@w3.org "James Nurthen" <james.nurthen@oracle.com>, "Jon Gunderson" <jongund@uiuc.edu>, "Schnabel, Stefan" <stefan.schnabel@sap.com>, "Wlodkowski, Thomas" 10/22/20 <thomas.wlodkowski@corp.aol.com>, vtsaran@yahoo-inc.com, 09 12:50 W3C WAI-PFWG <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>, W3C WAI-XTECH PM <wai-xtech@w3.org> Subject ARIA Grid Example using the DHTML keyboard style guide I have created an new ARIA grid example based on the keystrokes in the AOL DHTML style guide. http://test.cita.illinois.edu/aria/grid/grid4.php I plan to add some additional widgets to gridcells to study how the escape key should operate when widgets are in grid cells, for example a date picker and combo boxes for locations. I have done some testing with JAWS 11 and Firefox 3.5 since this is the combination that seems to work the best with speech. IE 8 and JAWS 11 does not speak very much. It is intersting to note that when navigating to a cell with content, it speaks all the labels, but not the contents of the gridcell. If you use INSERT+KEYPAD5 it then speaks the girdcell contents only. Comments and suggestions welcome. Jon Jon Gunderson, Ph.D. Coordinator Information Technology Accessibility Disability Resources and Educational Services Rehabilitation Education Center Room 86 1207 S. 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