- From: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
- Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:51:43 -0600
- To: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
- Cc: HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>, W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>
I propose the full text of this proposal should be deleted and replaced with: "Decisions on accessibility issues should be made in the same way as any other issue before the HTML Working Group, in accordance with our Charter and Decision Policy". Rationale: The proposed policy has several flaws. First, the proposed policy suggests to give veto power to the PWFG over accessibility issues (the proposed process is that no issue may be considered closed until the PFWG is happy, and can be closed as soon as PFWG is happy.). While it's W3C practice to consult with and consider the input of other Working Groups in related areas, it is also accepted standard practice that requests of other Working Groups may be declined. For example, I have seen the CSS WG and SVG WG decline each other's requests many times, in areas of their respective expertise. Thus, the proposed process is out of line with the norms and official Process of the W3C. Second, the request to give WAI/PFWG a veto power does not even come from WAI itself; instead it is made by an assortment of people, some of whom are not WAI members at all. If WAI really wants that kind of power over other W3C Working Groups, then I think it should officially make the request itself. Third, I think the proposal is inappropriate because essentially demands that the HTML Working Group should genuflect and kiss the ring. I think respect and collegiality with other W3C Working Groups is appropriate, but obsequious subservience is not. The HTML WG has the authority to make decisions on the documents within its charter, and is not obliged to get the approval of external groups. Fourth, I think the proposal is in bad faith because its proponents have been unable to get their way on certain issues by arguing technical merits or by consensus building, so they want to change the rules so they can automatically win. I think trying to change the rules so you can get your way is inappropriate. Fifth, there's no reason accessibility issues can't be handled in the same way as any other issue within the purview of the HTML Working Group. Anyone can become a member of the HTML WG and be heard the same as anyone else. In fact, the signatories of this proposal are all HTML WG members and have been among the most vocal. Regards, Maciej On Jul 24, 2009, at 5:59 AM, Laura Carlson wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > As you know a procedure to promote progress with accessibility issues > [1] was recently submitted to this HTML working group. > > We would like to invite everyone's input and suggestions for alternate > wordings of the procedure. Please include: > > 1. The specific text that you are addressing. > 2. Proposed verbiage for the change you would like made. > 3. The rationale behind your proposed change. > > Please send your comments to this thread by July 31, 2009. A > discussion page for the procedure has also been set up in the Wiki > [2]. > > Thank you. > > Best Regards, > Laura > > [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Jul/0556.html > [2] http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/AccessibilityIssueProcedure/ > Discussion > > -- > Laura L. Carlson >
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