Re: Style guide: rich text editor

Hi to all, sorry for the delay,
  I don't know if it would be a good idea but VMWare got me the idea. If a
virual machine gets focus, to leave it, you should use CTRL+ALT, i think
that if we find a seequence (for example CTRL+ALT) that allow user to give
the focus to the Rich Text Editor "entiere widget", and after with TAB
continue the navigation, it would be great.
What do you think?

On 11/04/2008, Aaron M Leventhal <aleventh@us.ibm.com> wrote:
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> The workaround from the user's point of view is to go to another editor
> where you can copy tab into the clipboard, then paste it into Mozilla.
> From an authoring point of view, you can use JavaScript to catch a key or
>  button press and insert a tab, indent the selection, move to the next table
> cell, or whatever.
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> So it's the same as IE now. If Microsoft, Opera or Apple has a better
> workaround suggestion I'd be glad for Mozilla to follow it.
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> - Aaron
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>  *"Victor Tsaran" <vtsaran@yahoo-inc.com>*
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> Hi Aaron,
> I understand when you are coming from, but the question is whether the
> mainstream world will accept your agument. Now this becomes a usability
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> I didn't realize that Firefox3 implemented this feature. Is there a
> work-around for those who do want to use TAB to indent?
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> Thanks,
> Victor
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> *From:* wai-xtech-request@w3.org [mailto:wai-xtech-request@w3.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Aaron M Leventhal*
> Sent:* Friday, April 11, 2008 3:44 AM*
> To:* David Poehlman*
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> Subject:* Re: Style guide: rich text editor
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> Unfortunately there is a conflict between those 2 uses of tab and one had
> to win. Being able to navigate in and out is more crucial. Those rich text
> editors that do need an indent feature will need to add something on their
> accessible toolbar that allows indenting etc. A keystroke can be added. The
> web authors already need to do that for indenting in a rich text editor for
> IE.  We felt it was important to make the browsers more consistent with each
> other and support the most crucial accessibility need.
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> - Aaron
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>   *"David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com>*
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> 04/11/2008 12:37 PM
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> so how do we get tab into an edit field if we need something to indent
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aaron M Leventhal" <aleventh@us.ibm.com>
> To: <wai-xtech@w3.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 6:30 AM
> Subject: Style guide: rich text editor
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> 1. The style guide has:
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> Note: The browser should also provide a keyboard mechanism for navigating
> into and out of the edit control. Within Internet Explorer the edit
> control is put into the tab order of the page and can be navigated into,
> out of, and through using the tab and shift-tab keys like any standard
> form control. Firefox also puts the edit control into the tab order.
> However, Firefox has actually implemented tab as an action within the edit
> control so currently there is no keyboard way to navigate out of the
> editor component once focus has been placed inside of it.
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> This has changed with Firefox 3. In general, I think with mentioning
> browsers in the doc, you better put version #s because things change.
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> 2. Browser rich edit controls don't support keyboard shortcuts for
> bold/italic etc. because they don't know which of those features the
> particular edit field wants to support. The style guide should mention
> this. Do people thing that the rich edit fields should support Ctrl+B for
> bold etc. when the particular edit field supports bold?
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> - Araon
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Diego La Monica (IWA/HWG)